The Ford Barn

CatMan1 · 09-15-2021, 07:12 AM

After watching the video from Paul Shinn on Toe-In adjustment I bought the tool and gave it a try. It worked beautifully! No more shake & shimmy! What a relief! Now onto the water pump......the lights that blink now....the fluids that need changed....maybe a tune-up.... This car is coming along!

dennis lumbert · 09-15-2021, 07:53 AM

Congratulations,A great feeling,accomplishment!

CatMan1 · 09-15-2021, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dennis lumbert

Congratulations,A great feeling,accomplishment!

Thank you! It sure is!

Patrick L. · 09-15-2021, 08:17 AM

Good, where was the toe before you changed it ?

CatMan1 · 09-15-2021, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick L.

Good, where was the toe before you changed it ?

Almost an inch.

old31 · 09-15-2021, 08:48 AM

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Oh oh. New chrome & paint is next!

CatMan1 · 09-15-2021, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick L.

Good, where was the toe before you changed it ?

Nearly an inch.

CatMan1 · 09-15-2021, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by old31

Oh oh. New chrome & paint is next!

Fortunately the car was restored before I bought it. The body looks great, but the mechanicals were.......iffy.....

Patrick L. · 09-15-2021, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CatMan1

Nearly an inch.

In or out ? Either way thats a lot ! I'm surprised the tires survived that.

If in it would probably handle somewhat manageable , but, if out it had to be all over the road

CatMan1 · 09-15-2021, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick L.

In or out ? Either way thats a lot ! I'm surprised the tires survived that.

If in it would probably handle somewhat manageable , but, if out it had to be all over the road

It was to the right. I'd have to look to see which way that was.

Patrick L. · 09-15-2021, 11:53 AM

Where the front of the tires in or out too much ?

CatMan1 · 09-15-2021, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick L.

Where the front of the tires in or out too much ?

I would say in, but it was hard to tell by just looking at it. The tires weren't weirdly worn. They all look pretty good except the right front looks to be wearing evenly and more.

mgambuzza · 09-15-2021, 09:18 PM

I was experiencing the same issue and after seeing this video, ordering the tool he demonstrated, a 100% improvement and elimination of the death wobble.

Brian SATX · 09-15-2021, 09:30 PM

Do you have a link? I looked and could not find the video.

J Franklin · 09-15-2021, 10:27 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/paulshinn

Brian SATX · 09-16-2021, 07:05 AM

Thanks, but I cannot find the exact one that deals with the front end.

CatMan1 · 09-16-2021, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian SATX

Thanks, but I cannot find the exact one that deals with the front end.

I wish I could share the link. His name is Paul Shinn. I bought the tool through O'Reilly's.

Russell Reay · 09-16-2021, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian SATX

Thanks, but I cannot find the exact one that deals with the front end.

Try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdNb-NU9vf0&t=138s

W1LSU · 09-16-2021, 03:28 PM

Great job, please keep us all posted with the improvements!!

Brian SATX · 09-16-2021, 09:25 PM

That is it. thanks

mgambuzza · 09-17-2021, 07:18 AM

Thanks for the link- beat me to it! I bought mine through JEGS as I was planning on my first trip to a car show, and wanted to get the tool overnighted so I could do before I left. I ordered this on an evening around 5pm and received it 8am the next day - plenty of time to do the adjustments and SAFELY without the death wobble make it to the show.

https://www.jegs.com/i/SPC/827/99374...r+Confirmation

jg61hawk · 10-07-2021, 01:43 PM

THANKS for this post. I had occasion to take an 83 year old current Model A owner in my 1929 Roadster. When I stopped the car shook like crazy. I kind of had gotten used to it. He read me the riot act and I found this post. I watched the video and bought the tool at Jegs. I was afraid I was going to get into stuck cotter pins, and rusted together parts but with PB Blaster, heat, and a screw driver lightly tapped into the pinch clamp for the tie rod everything went smoothly. The car stops so much better now....WOW is all I can say and again thanks for posting. It's so important we post our adventures so others can learn. This post really inspired me to do it and helped so much.

Ruth · 10-07-2021, 02:13 PM

Same tool on Amazon.com, cheaper and free shipping.

katy · 10-08-2021, 11:05 AM

Who ever came up w/the term "death wobble"? Years ago we just said shimmy.

Aretino · 10-08-2021, 11:50 AM

AMEN. Shimmy it is

old31 · 10-10-2021, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by katy

Who ever came up w/the term "death wobble"? Years ago we just said shimmy.

OH, the guy that came up with the term died!

aermotor · 10-10-2021, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruth

Same tool on Amazon.com, cheaper and free shipping.

Could not find it - do you have a link?

John

Patrick L. · 10-10-2021, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old31

oh, the guy that came up with the term died!

lol !

katy · 10-14-2021, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aermotor

Could not find it - do you have a link?

John

Try: https://www.amazon.com/SPC-Performan...4230095&sr=8-2

bavArian · 10-14-2021, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katy

Who ever came up w/the term "death wobble"? Years ago we just said shimmy.

I guess that term comes from the motorcycle world. Worn components can cause the same effect on a bike, but it's much more dangerous for obvious reasons.

ETAModel · 10-15-2021, 03:29 AM

I'm going to local club meeting next week, maybe someone will have the tool for rent or lend. The 30 I drive has a bad shimmy...death wobble, whatever.
Paul Shinn is great for my amateur wrench turning. I just watched the video, it looks easier than I thought.

jg61hawk · 10-15-2021, 06:16 AM

https://www.jegs.com/i/SPC/827/99374...r+Confirmation

The tool is in stock at Jegs. Perhaps more $ but fast and exact as in video. Very nice to use. The hardest part for me was getting the old cotter pins out. I sprayed the tie rod ends and put a screwdriver in the pinch clamp and very gently tapped it. I moved the tie rod end with the screwdriver and the end and tie rod got nice and easy / loose to adjust .

JayJay · 10-15-2021, 11:58 AM

I'd been meaning to order the gizmo that Paul Shinn recommended in his video (he provided a link) and used this thread to do so - link is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I5KPDLI...roduct_details. When I got the shipping confirmation it showed that it was being shipped from a company named "TOYS FOR TRUCKS INC.". So what's not to like about that?

JayJay

09-15-2021, 07:12 AM	#1
CatMan1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Pella, IA Posts: 336	Death Wobble Fixed! After watching the video from Paul Shinn on Toe-In adjustment I bought the tool and gave it a try. It worked beautifully! No more shake & shimmy! What a relief! Now onto the water pump......the lights that blink now....the fluids that need changed....maybe a tune-up.... This car is coming along!

09-15-2021, 07:53 AM	#2
dennis lumbert Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: central Arkansas Posts: 150	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Congratulations,A great feeling,accomplishment!

09-15-2021, 08:17 AM	#4
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Good, where was the toe before you changed it ?

09-15-2021, 08:48 AM	#6
old31 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 2,094	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Oh oh. New chrome & paint is next!

09-15-2021, 11:53 AM	#11
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Where the front of the tires in or out too much ?

09-15-2021, 09:18 PM	#13
mgambuzza Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 173	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! I was experiencing the same issue and after seeing this video, ordering the tool he demonstrated, a 100% improvement and elimination of the death wobble.

09-15-2021, 09:30 PM	#14
Brian SATX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 821	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Do you have a link? I looked and could not find the video. __________________ Brian SATX

09-15-2021, 10:27 PM	#15
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,959	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! https://www.youtube.com/user/paulshinn

09-16-2021, 07:05 AM	#16
Brian SATX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 821	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Thanks, but I cannot find the exact one that deals with the front end. __________________ Brian SATX

09-16-2021, 03:28 PM	#19
W1LSU Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Henderson, TN Posts: 20	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Great job, please keep us all posted with the improvements!!

09-16-2021, 09:25 PM	#20
Brian SATX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 821	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! That is it. thanks __________________ Brian SATX

09-17-2021, 07:18 AM	#21
mgambuzza Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 173	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Thanks for the link- beat me to it! I bought mine through JEGS as I was planning on my first trip to a car show, and wanted to get the tool overnighted so I could do before I left. I ordered this on an evening around 5pm and received it 8am the next day - plenty of time to do the adjustments and SAFELY without the death wobble make it to the show. https://www.jegs.com/i/SPC/827/99374...r+Confirmation

10-07-2021, 01:43 PM	#22
jg61hawk Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 404	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! THANKS for this post. I had occasion to take an 83 year old current Model A owner in my 1929 Roadster. When I stopped the car shook like crazy. I kind of had gotten used to it. He read me the riot act and I found this post. I watched the video and bought the tool at Jegs. I was afraid I was going to get into stuck cotter pins, and rusted together parts but with PB Blaster, heat, and a screw driver lightly tapped into the pinch clamp for the tie rod everything went smoothly. The car stops so much better now....WOW is all I can say and again thanks for posting. It's so important we post our adventures so others can learn. This post really inspired me to do it and helped so much.

10-07-2021, 02:13 PM	#23
Ruth Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Glide, Oregon Posts: 1,336	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Same tool on Amazon.com, cheaper and free shipping. __________________ Ruth "Sometimes you really DO need to read the whole thread"

10-08-2021, 11:05 AM	#24
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,042	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! Who ever came up w/the term "death wobble"? Years ago we just said shimmy. __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

10-08-2021, 11:50 AM	#25
Aretino Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Dallas, TX, Angola, IN Posts: 157	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! AMEN. Shimmy it is

10-15-2021, 03:29 AM	#31
ETAModel Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Along the Red River, Texas Posts: 360	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! I'm going to local club meeting next week, maybe someone will have the tool for rent or lend. The 30 I drive has a bad shimmy...death wobble, whatever. Paul Shinn is great for my amateur wrench turning. I just watched the video, it looks easier than I thought. Last edited by ETAModel; 10-15-2021 at 03:40 AM.

10-15-2021, 06:16 AM	#32
jg61hawk Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 404	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! https://www.jegs.com/i/SPC/827/99374...r+Confirmation The tool is in stock at Jegs. Perhaps more $ but fast and exact as in video. Very nice to use. The hardest part for me was getting the old cotter pins out. I sprayed the tie rod ends and put a screwdriver in the pinch clamp and very gently tapped it. I moved the tie rod end with the screwdriver and the end and tie rod got nice and easy / loose to adjust .

10-15-2021, 11:58 AM	#33
JayJay Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,069	Re: Death Wobble Fixed! I'd been meaning to order the gizmo that Paul Shinn recommended in his video (he provided a link) and used this thread to do so - link is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I5KPDLI...roduct_details. When I got the shipping confirmation it showed that it was being shipped from a company named "TOYS FOR TRUCKS INC.". So what's not to like about that? JayJay __________________ JayJay San Francisco Bay Area ------------------------ 1930 Murray Town Sedan 1931 Briggs S/W Town Sedan