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06-05-2020, 05:29 PM | #1 |
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"600w" trans lube foamy.
I know you usually have a lot of foam in lube oils if you overfill but I did not overfill mine and cannot believe the foam.The entire cae is still foamy after sitting a week. I have been having shifting problems ,grinding into second and third so I have been expiermenting with a couple different shift towers.One seems to be a lot better than the Snyder rebuilt one. I have the thicker oil Meroda coming and mayby it will slow down gears but I do think the stuff Brattons and Snyders sell as 600w is junk if it foams like that and doesn't seem to rejuvenate or settle.Can't be good so hopefully this is my problem with shifting.
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06-05-2020, 05:52 PM | #2 |
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Re: "600w" trans lube foamy.
Foam is entrained air and air has none of the properties one looks for in a lubricant, period.
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Re: "600w" trans lube foamy.
I do not want to start a, I use you use conversation, but!
I have used for many years in our Model A transmission a 50/50 mix of 600w oil from Mac’s and STP. This along with a correct idle makes shifting a breeze. It might help that I have been driving Model A’s since 1962, I don’t know. I know that there our owners out there who will not agree with me. That’s OK. It has worked for us. Enjoy. |
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Not fair for me to comment on either Bratton's or Synder's 600w gear oil as I have no clue how it is created but I have used both. More recently I've been using 140 gear oil from 'Sta-Lube' & 'Lubriplate', as that weight is specified in the early V8 Service Bulletins. My experimenting with all weight gear oils is because I drive (attempt) a multi-disc clutch which is very non-forgiving, unlike a single disc clutch. A single disc I can 'wind up' much farther with no gear chirping. After many miles & gear oil changes, it is evident it is the nut behind the shifter. With idle speed correctly set, you still need to take time between gears. Non-syncro, straight cut teeth, & thick gear lube, slow shifting is the nature of the era. Very different from a close ratio 4 speed Shelby Mustang. Keep practicing & Enjoy. |
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06-06-2020, 07:29 AM | #7 |
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Re: "600w" trans lube foamy.
Why not use SAE 140 gear oil that is specifically designed for highly loaded gear sets? I have been using SAE 140 gear oil since the 1960s, and I have no trouble shifting gears. Shifting quietly is all about having a good clutching technique.
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100% Lucas oil stabilizer works VERY well. Smooth as silk.
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Non synchronized transmission with spur cut gears will shift smoothly when the input shaft speed matches the output shaft speed of the gear ratio selected. Oil and idle speed can alter the time it takes for the gear speeds match,but its up to the operator to 'feel' when the speeds are correct.
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Have you adjusted the idle down?? Sometimes I would go into 2nd and then first at a stop sign, I used the 600W from the vendors. FWIW Is the clutch fully disengaging??
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I will post but I also ordered Penrite for steering box and that put everything on hold until they get it in. Tomorrow I am trying on another tower but it is still going to be the foamy oil. I also put that in differential so its probably foamy also. Mayby rebuilt tower is too tight and the used ones I try are loose enough to shift nice but I have not tried one enough to see if they also jump out of gear.
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In addition to the comments above, you might check to see that the clutch free-play is correct. My car was getting a bit chirpy and found that the free-play was at 1 1/2 in. I have it now at 3/4 in. and the shifts are smooth and quite. Ed
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That is kinda my thought too. I'm wondering how big the shift ball is and how it fits. Sounds like it may be tight. |
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I don't understand the foamy oil. I just drained my transmission after a drive to get it warm and it was not foamy at all. I use Snyder's 600w.
Is anyone else having this problem?
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I use Penrite SAE 250 in my trans and it shifts good.
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I support the idea of double checking the clutch free play. A single disc 1929 clutch should have 1" free play. The clutch needs to disengage cleanly, no drag. to shift without chirping gears. MAYBE because of mileage & wear, try 3/4 " free play. ( A 1928 multi-disc is supposed to have 3/4 " free play but the discs dragged until I closed the free play down to 1/2".) We're all pulling for ya, Good Luck, jb |
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Re: "600w" trans lube foamy.
I turn my hearing aids off while driving the A's. They run quiet and the shifts are silent. Now if I can just get my wife to quit panicking every couple of miles.
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Perhaps check that the tranny top vent area isn't blocked (and perhaps add a breather to the rear end as well ).
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