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Old 06-23-2013, 12:18 PM   #21
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Thanks for all the tips. I checked my frame with a tight string and blocks like Mr. Rogers said to and and if there was a 1/16" gap at the biggest spot that's all there was, so I'm leaving it as-is. Got it ready for priming and painting now, I think.
Question: I have received recommendations for Model A detail books by Les Pearson and Les Andrews. Has anyone reviewed both, and any views on which is better? Best I can tell, Mr. Andrews uses illustrations and Mr. Pearson uses pictures but both claim to contain good info for a beginner.
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:54 PM   #22
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Hi again. So, I took off the crank pulley and it does appear to be aluminum. A nice die-cast part I might add, but surely aluminum. And yes, the hole is drilled through the pulley, the crank and the crank bolt. I found a few pieces of a cotter pin in the hole in the bolt and the pulley face is now scored where the washers spun when the cotter pin sheared and it was still running last time I ran it.
I'll check for the slinger as Mr. Rogers said, and I guess I'll have to get a new pulley. It mates to another aluminum part that's still on the crank. I'm guessing I'll need to replace that too when I get a new pulley. Is the 2-piece pulley the recommended way to go?
Also, there are two washers that were under the crank bolt head. They are obliterated. It seems like they were some sort of steel-clad copper or brass material. Were these added shims to try to clamp the pulley? (I know, this will be easier when I get my book from Les Andrews or Pearson...)
I've attached pictures of the pulley, crank end, ratchet nut and washers. Any comments are welcome.
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:37 AM   #23
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I'd buy an original one piece pulley and crank bolt.
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Old 06-24-2013, 05:10 AM   #24
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Tom has it right. Get a new one piece pulley and make sure thew slinger is in place and a new bolt. Don't use the washers, they should not be needed if all is correct. When you install the new pulley, you should be able to feel it being just a little longer than the crank. Tighten the new crank bolt with an impact wrench and you will be good to go.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:41 AM   #25
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Be careful with that impact gun! I have see two new repop one piece pulleys split from too much force!
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:46 AM   #26
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Is there actually a torque spec for the ratchet nut?
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:00 AM   #27
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Is there actually a torque spec for the ratchet nut?

Not a factory suggest torque spec. Just opinions from mechanics.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:15 AM   #28
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Heh. I've got a Model A engine which has been drilled for a cross bolt (1/4-20) on the crankshaft pulley.

I'm going to ignore the holes and keep going back to original.

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Old 06-24-2013, 11:20 AM   #29
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You don't have to give any personal information, not even your location, and certainly not any financial information. But your location helps us refer to resources and people near you.

Regarding books, I haven't seen Pearson's, but I have Andrews' and read it all the time. Not everything is explained or correct in that book, so it helps to have a cross reference or two. The Service Bulletins are the best thing, I think.
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