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Old 05-29-2021, 06:23 AM   #1
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Default 34 wheel/tire combo for roller

What cheap wheel and tire combo can I use on my 34 pickup so I can easily roll it in and out of my garage as I begin my project? I have 2 sets of wire wheels but the ones that have tires won’t hold air. Looking for cheap alternatives that will bolt up and be roughly same size as stock wire wheels and tires.
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Old 05-29-2021, 07:43 AM   #2
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I've seen round disks of 3/4" plywood drilled with the 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern used for rollers but usually just for frames. But with the price of plywood these days it might be cheaper to find another tire/wheel combo.
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Old 05-29-2021, 11:31 AM   #3
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ford car up to 48, or ford pickup way into the 80's will bolt on for a roller, but not seat proper to drive them. jeep wheels, scout wheels, anything 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern.

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Old 05-29-2021, 04:21 PM   #4
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As cas3 noted the 1940 and up rims will not seat properly on the '32 mechanical brake drums. Tightening them will damage the rims. You might post in the wanted section to find wire wheels with bent spokes that you could get cheap. Is it correct to assume you have the original brakes? If not ignore this.

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Old 05-29-2021, 04:34 PM   #5
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Thanks cas3. Good point Charlie, that is one thing I still need to check. My dad said he upgraded to hydraulic brakes but I need to verify. Probably post pics later or tomorrow here to double check what I find.
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Old 05-30-2021, 07:49 AM   #6
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No not original brakes. Dad said it had hydraulic brakes. And it does have the 37-41 round spindles.
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Old 05-30-2021, 01:42 PM   #7
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Take a picture of the backing plates at 6 o'clock and people should be able to tell what year they are and if they are Ford.

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Old 05-30-2021, 05:01 PM   #8
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Lets see what drums you have too
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Old 05-30-2021, 06:51 PM   #9
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Here is a pic of the back side and front of drum. right front wheel.
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Old 05-30-2021, 06:59 PM   #10
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Those are 46-48 drums, and 39-41 backing plates. To run 17" wire wheels on those drums you need a support ring, available from many vendors. all the late smoothie ford wheels will bolt on and mount proper
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Old 05-30-2021, 08:47 PM   #11
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Interesting. You probably noticed it has 17” wire wheels from the pic. Didn’t see a ring on there when I removed the wheel. Is this ring between the backing plate and spindle?
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Old 05-30-2021, 09:30 PM   #12
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I only mentioned 17" because you said its a 34, and that would be the correct wire wheel size for 33-34. The original drum for those wheels have a raised up bump near the lug stud that is part of the support for the rim. Without it, you tighten down the lug nuts and it could bend and or crack the wheel as its not sitting on a flat surface. ring goes between the wheel and the hub. hold on, i'll find it for you
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Old 05-30-2021, 09:33 PM   #13
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here ya go... https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-1928-35-Ford-Wire-Wheel-Center-Support,5846.html?sku=91065470&utm_matchtype={matc h_type}&msclkid=08a786a275671f709319e6163fc94670&u tm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=SMI%20-%20Shopping%20(CSE)%20(Bing)&utm_term=457740434889 0833&utm_content=All%20Products%20(Feb28_2020)
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Interesting. You probably noticed it has 17” wire wheels from the pic. Didn’t see a ring on there when I removed the wheel. Is this ring between the backing plate and spindle?
The ring goes around the studs between the wheel and the hub. It is best shown here: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...=1#post1286293
If you are lucky your studs will be long enough otherwise you will need to have them replaced which is a job for a SHOP THAT HAS DONE IT BEFORE. If the wheels have been run check them for cracks around the lug nut holes. There is probably another ring on the front brakes that aligns the backing plates on the spindle.

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Old 05-30-2021, 09:36 PM   #15
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Well shoot, I dont know why the copy n paist is as long as the dictionary, and dont work ! search the first few lines: wire wheel support, 28 to 35 etc, it'll come up
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Looks like he has 37 round back spindles to me Charle
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Looks like he has 37 round back spindles to me Charle
Good, that means he doesn't need the ring to align the backing plate on the spindle.

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Old 05-30-2021, 09:41 PM   #18
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Good link you posted there Charlie, that says it all
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Old 05-31-2021, 08:52 AM   #19
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Yes good information. Now I am going to pull wheel off again to check for ring or if drum has a flat face on it where it meets the wheel.
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Those are 46-48 drums, and 39-41 backing plates. To run 17" wire wheels on those drums you need a support ring, available from many vendors. all the late smoothie ford wheels will bolt on and mount proper
so took the wheel back off and it seems that the drum has a ring already on there or does this drum already have a flat face as part of the casting? I haven't tried to remove the drum since I am not worried about brakes at this point. here are some pics of drum and back of wheel.
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