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Old 12-12-2017, 03:27 PM   #1
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Default 51 Shoe box brakes

Any one have the disc brake kit from Shoe box central on the front of there car . I just about have every thing new on my brake job even a dual master cylinder still not stoping good drums have been cut,new brake shoes with softer lining,new wheel cylinders & flex hoses almost all new metal brake lines
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Old 12-12-2017, 04:00 PM   #2
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Chris at SBC may be able to help you out. You have manual dic brakes so they will not feel like power. Do you have a proportioning valve? Is the pedal low or does it feel hard but the car is not stopping? Did the master cylinder come with the brake kit?
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Old 12-12-2017, 04:57 PM   #3
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I just about have every thing new on my brake job even a dual master cylinder still not stoping good drums have been cut,new brake shoes with softer lining,new wheel cylinders & flex hoses almost all new metal brake lines
Thank you for any help on this
Are you saying that you still have drum brakes on the front?
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Old 12-12-2017, 05:57 PM   #4
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Are you confident that all air has been bled from the brake system?
Can you lock up any wheels? If you can have an outside observer look at the car when doing this so you can understand which wheel or set of wheels aren't helping you to stop.

If you can't lock up any wheel(s) get a brake pressure gauge kit ($50) to learn the pressure at each corner. This is a 2 man job as you will place the gauge into the bleeding screw and observe while someone presses the brake pedal. This is a diagnostic which will tell you if you have adequate pressure at each wheel to stop the car. Video of procedure
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Old 12-12-2017, 06:19 PM   #5
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Did you arc the shoes to the drums??
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Old 12-12-2017, 07:37 PM   #6
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I'll go on the record here and say there is something wrong with your present brake system. I have a '51 Ford with an all stock brake system that I rebuilt when I did the car 30 years ago. In all that time, the brakes have performed admirably, and quite frankly, I can't tell the difference when I am driving one of my newer cars or the Ford. It appears that the only non-standard piece in your setup is the dual master, that is what I would suspect.
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Old 12-12-2017, 08:00 PM   #7
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I have to second what Tubman said, the all rebuilt STOCK drum brakes in my '51 performs very well. At one time I assumed I was going to front discs as I had on some other vintage cars, but never did on the '51.
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