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12-04-2014, 04:09 PM | #1 |
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V8 60 king pin lock bolts
Does anyone have any pictures of the V8 60 axle king pin lock bolts. Apparently they are different than the standard Ford king pin lock bolt? Who supplies or has them?
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12-04-2014, 04:20 PM | #2 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
Here ya go....definitely different than the ones for the I-beams. Don't have a clue where you could find any. DD
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12-04-2014, 07:29 PM | #3 | |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
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All "I-Beam" axles, whether in a 60, 85 or 95 HP equipped car, used the same bolts.
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Secondly, SOME 85 and 95 HP cars (1937-1940) WERE equipped with the tubular axles. To be clear.....the lock pins pictured above were only used on the TUBULAR axles......not the I-beam axles. DD |
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12-05-2014, 04:15 PM | #5 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
Can you show the other side of those lock pins? I'd like to know if they had a groove in the side of the shaft like a normal lock pin. If not, what presses against the kingpin tightly?
If there is no groove, and they are just straight shafts, I'd think a resourceful machinist could replicate something from a pair of bolts. Maybe just need to weld a knob onto the heads? |
12-05-2014, 07:03 PM | #6 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
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My tube axle has 9/16" holes and was used with regular lock pins, sure it was modified sometime in the past. Last edited by rich b; 12-05-2014 at 07:08 PM. |
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Rich B ..........The slot in the king pins is the regular old three-sided notch. The round section of the pin interferes perfectly with that notch to hold it snugly. Yes, the pins could be home-brewed by the right guy. I'll post all of the dimensions if anyone wants them. DD |
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12-05-2014, 11:53 PM | #8 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
Please post dimensions or pm them to me!!!!
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12-06-2014, 10:10 AM | #9 |
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OK guys, here are the dimensions. If there are any others I've neglected to note, let me know. Overall length: 3.212" Total shank length below hex (including threads): 2.063" Total thread length (threads ONLY): 0.651" Shank diameter (NOT tapered): 0.463" Stub length (exposed knob-like part above hex): 0.933" Stub diameter (tapers down FROM hex): 0.548" MAJOR to 0.538" MINOR (not visually noticeable) Width (thickness) of hex surfaces: 5/32"-major // 1/8"-minor Hex size (actual): 0.682".....for 11/16" wrench Thread diameter (actual): 0.433"......(7/16-20 thread) Transition radius from STUB to hex: Approx. 1/4" radius One other note.....these pins insert from the REAR side of axle, where-as the I-beam pins insert from the front. That's because the STUB is built-in to these pins, where-as the stub surface for the I-beam pins is actually the acorn-shaped nut that threads onto those pins. |
12-06-2014, 12:35 PM | #10 |
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OK folks, I've managed to get your pics up for you. Cute little buggers, ain't they? DD
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12-06-2014, 03:28 PM | #11 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
These are easily made on a home lathe but it would be wise to make them from SAE4140 rather than mild steel or screw stock (Ledloy). These act as spindle stops and some people are heavy handed on the steering wheel.
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12-09-2014, 11:10 AM | #12 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
Interesting. So basically the lock bolts will lock the kingpin from spinning, but not push it sideways to prevent "rocking". I wonder why Ford went with this method in this application? The regular wedge pin method seems superior to me.
Thanks for all those dimensions, as it will make it easy for all us tube axle owners to replicate our missing lock bolts. |
12-09-2014, 11:19 AM | #13 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
I've been wanting to get one so I could have my machine shop guy replicate a bunch of them. Anyone care to be a donor? I'll get the original back to you and a new set.
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12-09-2014, 03:56 PM | #14 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
V8COOPMAN supplied all of the dimensions. Any half way decent machinist can work from that. You really do not need a "sample".
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02-15-2017, 12:34 PM | #16 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
Here is proof that not all 60 hp cars had the tube. My mid-'37 60 hp sedan has the I-beam.
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
How about posting a pic of a tube axle?
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02-15-2017, 02:18 PM | #18 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
This is a tube axle that I obtained from under a very stock '39 Standard coupe with a V-8 60. DD
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11-28-2019, 09:40 PM | #19 |
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Re: V8 60 king pin lock bolts
Where can I get some lock bolts for a v8-60 axle? The regular one wont fit
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11-28-2019, 10:11 PM | #20 | |
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They are made out of "UNOBTAINIUM"....more rare than chicken teeth. You can have a machinest make you a pair from the dimensions I supplied above in Post #9, referencing my pics in post #10. One last idea...PM FordBarn member "barnfind08". He carries some really obscure and hard to find NOS parts. Those things measure something near 15/32" diameter. Yup, a really oddball size, but with a little creativity, you could relatively easily fashion something useable by turning down a couple of pieces on a lathe. DD |
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