toe in tool

[aermotor]

Someone was selling a toe in tool with two equal length chains that had a rod from tire to tire, roll the car for and aft until the chains touched the floor in the front and rear of the tire, the rod had a gauge that read the tow in (or out) in degrees. Any one know about it and where to get?

[Patrick L.]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28457191250...gAAOSwXAVhvBeR



I think this is what you're thinking about.

These work well, I use one.

But, brand spanking new is pricey !



https://www.ebay.com/itm/15329609074...wAAOSw96Zb8u-d


This one is more reasonable

[MrBruce]

I bought one not long ago and it was under $100.00. We have one in the club tool crib also and they work great. My new 31 Pickup was an inch and a half out and you couldn't drive it 25 mph when I bought it. I know the people who owned it could not have driven it that way. She said she bought it because it was "Cute" They were in the country and it sat for 18 years before she sold it to me. Lucky Me

[GPierce]

https://www.brattons.com/FRONT-AXLE-...ductinfo/4511/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LdNb-NU9vf0

[aermotor]

Can't see any difference between the ebay one for $89.18 and the other one for
for $294. John

[GMCPASO]

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Originally Posted by aermotor

Can't see any difference between the ebay one for $89.18 and the other one for
for $294. John

Agree with that observation. We have one in our club purchased by a member.

It is stored at my house and has been used 4 times now and all are amazed at how well their cars now drive/steer.

Great tool.

[Y-Blockhead]

Originally Posted by aermotor

Can't see any difference between the ebay one for $89.18 and the other one for
for $294. John

Nor the $45 one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/19515158117...IAAOSwMkRe0JsK

[alexiskai]

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

Nor the $45 one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/19515158117...IAAOSwMkRe0JsK

I think the higher-end plates have finer gradations marked on the tape.

[Y-Blockhead]

Originally Posted by alexiskai

I think the higher-end plates have finer gradations marked on the tape.

Haha, funny. I sure hope your eyes are a heck of a lot better than mine to read smaller than 1/32" on a tape measure.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

I think those gages are very outdated, and WAY too troublesome. At the shop, we use 'Toe Plates' to set the toe-in measurement because it is super fast. (Google them.)

We carry a set in our race car trailer to use at the track, and many pro racing teams use them to set the alignment on their competition cars. They are THAT accurate.

[Ruth]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

I think those gages are very outdated, and WAY too troublesome. At the shop, we use 'Toe Plates' to set the toe-in measurement because it is super fast. (Google them.)

We carry a set in our race car trailer to use at the track, and many pro racing teams use them to set the alignment on their competition cars. They are THAT accurate.

Brent, is this the device you are referring too? I have never seen one before but appear easy to use. Thanks for the heads up.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/19515158117...IAAOSwMkRe0JsK

I don't imagine it would work so good if you had a bent/wobbly wheel/tire?

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Ruth

Brent, is this the device you are referring too? I have never seen one before but appear easy to use. Thanks for the heads up.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/19515158117...IAAOSwMkRe0JsK

I don't imagine it would work so good if you had a bent/wobbly wheel/tire?

Yes.


As mentioned, a bent wheel changes everything ...no matter what type gauge you choose to use. For me, I would check measurement with the toe-plates, then roll the vehicle forward about 2 foot (-about a ¼ turn of the wheel) and re-measure. Compare your readings and adjust accordingly.

[shew01]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

I think those gages are very outdated, and WAY too troublesome. At the shop, we use 'Toe Plates' to set the toe-in measurement because it is super fast. (Google them.)

We carry a set in our race car trailer to use at the track, and many pro racing teams use them to set the alignment on their competition cars. They are THAT accurate.

Brent,

Is this what you’re talking about? Not a bad price.

HECASA DIY Toe Plates Wheel Alignment Tool High Grade Aluminum https://a.co/hoO8yr4


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[Ed in Maine]

I liked GeneBob's comments. Guys, get with it and make your own tool. I used a length of electrical conduit, coil spring (hardware store item) and a wood dowel that would slide easily in the conduit. Cut a slot in the conduit at a position where you can read a paper ruler glued to the dowel. Then you need a (2) short lengths of chain and couple of ends on the conduit that are somewhat pointed to stick on the wheel where the tire meets the rim. You can make these with pipe caps and screws threaded into the caps. My Toe-In tool hangs in the garage and is certainly a part of the Model A hobby. Have fun with it!

One final comment, after making this tool and getting the car back on the road, I took the car to a gas station and had them check the toe-in. They told me it was so close it was not worth changing it! Ed

[BillCNC]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

I think those gages are very outdated, and WAY too troublesome. At the shop, we use 'Toe Plates' to set the toe-in measurement because it is super fast. (Google them.)

We carry a set in our race car trailer to use at the track, and many pro racing teams use them to set the alignment on their competition cars. They are THAT accurate.

Two tape measures?

In my lifetime of over 61 years, I have NEVER seen two tape measures that measure the same ... EVER. Close, but never equal due to how that are made.

Go to any store that sells tape measures and do a side-by-side test. You will be shocked at the what you will find. I have seen them as far as .250" off, but most are off by .125" or less which is far cry from the .032" needed to be measured.

If this system is used, one would have to shop in person for two tape measures that would be only "CLOSE" but not dead on.

Regards
Bill

[Bob C]

The $294 one is Australian dollars.

[old31]

I bought this years ago and works well.

https://www.amazon.com/SPC-Performan...ps%2C86&sr=8-7

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by old31

I bought this years ago and works well.

https://www.amazon.com/SPC-Performan...ps%2C86&sr=8-7

I have one of those as well

[GeneBob]

I made one using a 2 foot length of 1" PVC pipe, a pipe cap, a 1" diameter X 4 foot wooden dowel and a spring. I think I got the idea from another thread here on Fordbarn. It works very well.
I use a tape measure to set the height, then make a mark on the dowel, then reposition it and check the difference. A little more fidgeting around but a lot less expensive. How often will you need to do this?

[burner31]

I made my own, out of what I had in the garage.