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eeyore · 01-17-2011, 07:55 AM

I am working on my 29 roadster quater panels that were rusted at the bottom, can someone show any pictures of how they are attached to the subrails (new from Brooksville) . I did not have much to work with on the quaters to refer back to. Thanks

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 01-17-2011, 04:03 PM

Earlier today I looked at some images that I have taken during past restorations and I don't really have anything very detailed that shows how they were originally folded over. Is that what you are looking for? I hate that your post has dropped down this far so if you can give me an idea specifically what you are needing guidence with, maybe I can take a picture of something else or show something from a different project that will help you.

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Vanspeed · 01-17-2011, 04:29 PM

I could use these pics as well as I am going to be replacing mine in the future and would appreciate it.

Carter · 01-17-2011, 04:48 PM

Another bump for this thread as I need this info as well.

eeyore · 01-17-2011, 05:29 PM

I have a new subframe and both quaters are rusted away about 3". I can form new metal which I think has 90 bend along the bottom and I have the door jam support bracket. Does the bottom edge fold under and around the subrail to close the bottom of the quater panel? what about the wheel well?

eeyore · 01-17-2011, 07:11 PM

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I see I can not spell roadster sorry, anyway here are a few pictures of what I am working with or without Thanks.

Carter · 01-17-2011, 11:21 PM

Ha, for a minute there I thought you sneaked into my garage and snapped a pic of mine. This is what I need to redo after removing a lot of bondo.

eeyore · 01-18-2011, 06:02 PM

Does anyone have a picture of the fit at the bottom of the quater panel door jam, meeting the subrail? A close up to show how to form the finish edge against the subrail.

eeyore · 01-18-2011, 08:32 PM

a picture almost like the one Carter posted above me here, but showing the bracket and how close in the quater panel sits into the frame. I started with out any real reference points to go from.

eeyore · 01-19-2011, 04:12 PM

what about a photo of a 29 roadster seat riser with the quater panel door jam bracket all sitting on the frame correctly, and maybe the seat stiffener brace?

loumo · 01-19-2011, 06:02 PM

I folded mine under the sub frame using hammer and dolly. However, The question I have is do you leave the scalloped edge open so it will drain water or should they be sealed off?

eeyore · 01-19-2011, 08:41 PM

Thanks, I am hoping to see the fit between the riser, jam, sill, subrail, ect. How much space should there be?

mrtexas · 01-19-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eeyore

Does anyone have a picture of the fit at the bottom of the quater panel door jam, meeting the subrail? A close up to show how to form the finish edge against the subrail.

How about this one? The quarter is attached with tabs. Let me know what you want as I have my roadster body sitting on it's side and can take pictures easily. This is an original quarter.

eeyore · 01-20-2011, 05:51 AM

Wow, Thanks, Are the tabs evenly cut, looks like about 1" wide? Could you take a picture from the top inside of both thoughs two same locations please. I would like to see the way the seat riser, meets up at that point also. Thanks for the help

Barry B./ Ma. · 01-20-2011, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eeyore

Wow, Thanks, Are the tabs evenly cut, looks like about 1" wide? Could you take a picture from the top inside of both thoughs two same locations please. I would like to see the way the seat riser, meets up at that point also. Thanks for the help

I just bend the length of the panel under the subrails on the ones I did. I tap the metal over center then squeeze tight with a vise grip sheet metal clamp. Seems to work out OK.

eeyore · 01-20-2011, 05:11 PM

Ok Guys/ Gals, what is the correct way to finish the bottom of the quater panel? Still hopeing for some pictures to help! thanks

eeyore · 01-20-2011, 08:14 PM

any more help here?

Dennis Pereira · 01-21-2011, 10:59 AM

This is a 1929 coupe. The original panel was attached like this

eeyore · 01-21-2011, 11:25 AM

Thanks, It seems my roadster may have had the small 1" tabs but I am not sure there wasn't much left. Is the roadster any different then a coupe or may be mine had work done in the past? Also I have a small 90' bracket coming from the quater door post to the subrail on the top side of the sill plate is this orinigal ?

eeyore · 01-21-2011, 07:04 PM

Thanks Dennis Did you have to stand on your head to take the pictures to help me out? I appreciate your help!

01-17-2011, 07:55 AM	#1
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	1929 roadter I am working on my 29 roadster quater panels that were rusted at the bottom, can someone show any pictures of how they are attached to the subrails (new from Brooksville) . I did not have much to work with on the quaters to refer back to. Thanks

01-17-2011, 04:03 PM	#2
BRENT in 10-uh-C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern Tennessee Posts: 11,537	Re: 1929 roadter Earlier today I looked at some images that I have taken during past restorations and I don't really have anything very detailed that shows how they were originally folded over. Is that what you are looking for? I hate that your post has dropped down this far so if you can give me an idea specifically what you are needing guidence with, maybe I can take a picture of something else or show something from a different project that will help you. . __________________ . BRENT in 10-uh-C . www.model-a-ford.com ...(...Finally Updated!! ) .

01-17-2011, 04:29 PM	#3
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,392	Re: 1929 roadter I could use these pics as well as I am going to be replacing mine in the future and would appreciate it. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

01-17-2011, 04:48 PM	#4
Carter Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 383	Re: 1929 roadter Another bump for this thread as I need this info as well.

01-17-2011, 05:29 PM	#5
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter I have a new subframe and both quaters are rusted away about 3". I can form new metal which I think has 90 bend along the bottom and I have the door jam support bracket. Does the bottom edge fold under and around the subrail to close the bottom of the quater panel? what about the wheel well?

01-17-2011, 11:21 PM	#7
Carter Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 383	Re: 1929 roadter Ha, for a minute there I thought you sneaked into my garage and snapped a pic of mine. This is what I need to redo after removing a lot of bondo.

01-18-2011, 06:02 PM	#8
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter Does anyone have a picture of the fit at the bottom of the quater panel door jam, meeting the subrail? A close up to show how to form the finish edge against the subrail.

01-18-2011, 08:32 PM	#9
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter a picture almost like the one Carter posted above me here, but showing the bracket and how close in the quater panel sits into the frame. I started with out any real reference points to go from.

01-19-2011, 04:12 PM	#10
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter what about a photo of a 29 roadster seat riser with the quater panel door jam bracket all sitting on the frame correctly, and maybe the seat stiffener brace?

01-19-2011, 06:02 PM	#11
loumo Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: cape cod ma Posts: 48	Re: 1929 roadter I folded mine under the sub frame using hammer and dolly. However, The question I have is do you leave the scalloped edge open so it will drain water or should they be sealed off?

01-19-2011, 08:41 PM	#12
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter Thanks, I am hoping to see the fit between the riser, jam, sill, subrail, ect. How much space should there be?

01-20-2011, 05:51 AM	#14
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter Wow, Thanks, Are the tabs evenly cut, looks like about 1" wide? Could you take a picture from the top inside of both thoughs two same locations please. I would like to see the way the seat riser, meets up at that point also. Thanks for the help

01-20-2011, 05:11 PM	#16
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter Ok Guys/ Gals, what is the correct way to finish the bottom of the quater panel? Still hopeing for some pictures to help! thanks

01-20-2011, 08:14 PM	#17
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter any more help here?

01-21-2011, 11:25 AM	#19
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter Thanks, It seems my roadster may have had the small 1" tabs but I am not sure there wasn't much left. Is the roadster any different then a coupe or may be mine had work done in the past? Also I have a small 90' bracket coming from the quater door post to the subrail on the top side of the sill plate is this orinigal ?

01-21-2011, 07:04 PM	#20
eeyore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: MADISON, OHIO Posts: 134	Re: 1929 roadter Thanks Dennis Did you have to stand on your head to take the pictures to help me out? I appreciate your help!