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10-19-2020, 02:57 PM | #21 |
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Re: t 5 tranmission
The big advantage of the T170 or T176 (Ford or Jeep)top shift, top loader transmission over the Borg Warner T5 is the length. When used with an AA bellhousing the crossmember needs only minimal trimming on the front flange for clearance. Also, the shifter location is only a couple inches farther back than the Model A shifter, as opposed to nearly a foot back for the T5.
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10-19-2020, 07:23 PM | #22 |
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My T5 is WONDERFUL!!! Easy shifting with absolutely no problems in four years; shifts like a new car... 20+ MPG to boot, and just one lever to deal with. GD
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10-22-2020, 12:44 AM | #23 |
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10-22-2020, 01:14 AM | #24 |
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[QUOTE=PotvinV8;1944007]It's more like 6-8 inches actually when using an S-10 tailshaft...
IT IS 3 INCHES ON MY CAR!!!! |
10-22-2020, 08:15 AM | #25 |
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It hasn't changed in 10 years, still 3". Rather than buy a used S-10 transmission and rebuild it, mine is brand new.
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10-24-2020, 12:31 AM | #26 |
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Ended up getting carpet from Classtique, cut my own holes, and attached the rubber mat myself. Is your shifter close to the seat in 2-4-R? If memory serves me correct, mine was pretty close before I moved it closer to the stock location. |
10-24-2020, 04:13 PM | #27 |
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I went back and precision measured (with a tape Measure). The stick pivot is 3.4375
back from my original. The stick is 15 inches long above the pivot. The center of the shift knob travels 4 inches from 1 to 2. The stick is 3 inches from the seat at the closest point when in gear 2 and the seat full forward. I made a new stick from bar stock. It is 2 inches longer below the pivot. There is a 2 inch riser block under the shifter cover. A couple of things to remember when thinking about a T5 conversion: 1- They came in many different configurations from many different brands of cars. 2- They came in many different strength ratings from 265 to 335 ft.lb. |
10-24-2020, 04:41 PM | #28 | |
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10-24-2020, 05:41 PM | #29 |
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10-24-2020, 06:14 PM | #30 |
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Cal-T: search on "F150 tranny with overdrive" and you'll find all the info you need.
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10-25-2020, 01:41 PM | #31 |
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Can someone please explain the mechanics of the shifter and its twin brother as shown in post #23 ? Obviously the forward shifters position has nothing to do with the transmission itself, but I can't quite figure out the connection and mounting of the bottom portion of the "Phantom" shifter lever. Are they using a Heim joint or some other fixed mount shaft with a pivot on the end? As simple as this is, it would be a great addition to any T-5 set up and I for one would like to have this for my car. Thanks
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10-25-2020, 02:30 PM | #32 | |
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10-26-2020, 09:15 AM | #34 |
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10-31-2020, 12:17 AM | #35 |
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Are there any thoughts on whether the five speed T-5 transmission or the four speed Tremec/Ford T170 RTS as used in the mid eighties F-150 trucks is preferable?
Are there pros and cons to either transmission for use in a Model A? |
10-31-2020, 03:48 AM | #36 | |
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Below, you will see a picture of an interesting T5 that Heard (also here on the 'Barn) and I assembled for his '36 3-window coupe. We assembled it completely from factory Borg-Warner (Tremec) parts. The main case and gear set is the 2.95 to 1 close ratio gears from a V8 Camaro, with the short main shaft and VERY SHORT rear tail shaft housing coming from a 4 X 4 Jeep CJ application....AGAIN, all factory T5 parts, BOLT-TOGETHER....No machine work! THIS trans is even four+ inches shorter than the Chevy S-10 4 X 4 version that you read about some guys converting to. Then, as you can see, we adapted it to a Ford torque tube/drive shaft, which is virtually identical to a Model A set-up. If interested, you can read our entire build at the link below. The bottom picture shows where the shifter would end-up with this T5, as well as any T5 with a Chevy S-10 two wheel drive tail shaft housing/shifter. T5s are extremely versatile and can be assembled in a multitude of variations. DD https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...T5+TORQUE+TUBE ........ |
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