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Old 05-13-2021, 02:50 PM   #1
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Would someone on here that knows their oil pans please PM me their E-Mail address so I can send them some pictures of an 8BA oil pan I'm using but have no idea what it came off of. Also how much oil it holds. Thanks. Gary
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Old 05-13-2021, 03:25 PM   #2
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So, no trust in the "community"? I understand.
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Old 05-13-2021, 03:40 PM   #3
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It is easy to post a photo here. How else are we going to argue over what you have?
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Old 05-13-2021, 03:48 PM   #4
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Would someone on here that knows their oil pans please PM me their E-Mail address so I can send them some pictures of an 8BA oil pan I'm using but have no idea what it came off of. Also how much oil it holds. Thanks. Gary

Gary.....I know that you DON'T do pictures here on the 'Barn (It's so simple. I'd be happy to send you a VERY concise "step-by-step").

If you would like to e-mail those pics to me, I'll be happy to post 'em here so a 'wider' audience can take a look, if you like. If you want the picture "tutoring", PM me. I've converted three or four previous "NO PICTURE" guys here in the past. Dick D


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Old 05-13-2021, 05:44 PM   #5
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Would someone on here that knows their oil pans please PM me their E-Mail address so I can send them some pictures of an 8BA oil pan I'm using but have no idea what it came off of. Also how much oil it holds. Thanks. Gary

Here are the pictures of the 8BA-type pan that Gary ("Krylon32") would like info on. DD
















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Old 05-13-2021, 05:53 PM   #6
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I’m the same way,,,,,,I take pics with my phone,,,,transfer to my iPad.
Then try to post here and it’s a catastrophe,,,LoL.

I know you guys don’t like the Hamb,,,,,but it is simple as can be there.
Pics post like it was designed that way,,,,,,LoL,,,maybe it was,,,I don’t know .
Anyway,,,,,that’s it,,,,,oh yeah,,,I wish there was a like button here,,,,,on the posts .
There is some major talent here,,,,,a lot of really smart guys .
Thanks !

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Old 05-13-2021, 06:05 PM   #7
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There is just a button. Looks like a paperclip. Picture of it attached - hope it helps.
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Old 05-13-2021, 06:21 PM   #8
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V8 Coopman. Thanks for the help. Explain why when someone posts pictures on the Barn nothing shows up and I have no way of seeing them?
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Old 05-13-2021, 06:31 PM   #9
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Pan looks like in the 8BA family with an unfamiliar (to me) location and angle for the dipstick.
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Old 05-13-2021, 07:33 PM   #11
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That's not an 8BA pan. All 8BA pans had a center sump. I believe it's a 52 - 53 Merc.
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That's not an 8BA pan. All 8BA pans had a center sump. I believe it's a 52 - 53 Merc.
Really???
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Old 05-13-2021, 07:50 PM   #13
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I don’t know what year it is but the Merc pan I have has a rear sump, windage tray and a bracket that bolt to the starter plate...Steve


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I believe the pan you mention is '49 Merc only
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I believe the pan you mention is '49 Merc only
Have a '50 Merc. rear sump with the bracket and a '51 rear sump without the bracket.
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Old 05-13-2021, 08:11 PM   #16
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Is this a mystery pan? Are you guys saying it won't fit my 8BA block? It sure looks like it will.
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Old 05-13-2021, 08:23 PM   #17
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Is this a mystery pan? Are you guys saying it won't fit my 8BA block? It sure looks like it will.
No, it will fit your 8BA block, we are just not in agreement what it came off of.
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Old 05-13-2021, 08:24 PM   #18
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Have a '50 Merc. rear sump with the bracket and a '51 rear sump without the bracket.
I'm talking about the one with the windage tray. I believe that is '49 Merc only
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I believe it's gonna be a '53-ish Merc pan, like pic below!





'49 thru EARLY '51 Mercs like this. DD




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Old 05-13-2021, 09:10 PM   #20
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Right on, DD.

To clarify, Gary you have a late Merc. pan and it will work on an 8BA block.

Question: How many Fordbarners does it take to change an oil pan?
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Old 05-13-2021, 09:22 PM   #21
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Now that it's identified how much oil does it take?

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Old 05-13-2021, 09:31 PM   #22
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All oil pans will fit all engines (8BA). It's the chassis it goes in that determines what it's configuration is.
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Motor is going into a deuce highboy roadster if I live long enough?
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'51 rear sump without the bracket.

Here's the LATE '51 WITHOUT the bracket.





And BELOW is the inside of Gary's (Krylon32) pan with funny dipstick. DD


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I'm talking about the one with the windage tray. I believe that is '49 Merc only
Both '50 and '51 Merc's have windage trays. Not '49 only.
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Here's the LATE '51 WITHOUT the bracket.



Not necessarily "late" as the MercOmatic pan had no bracket.
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Now that it's identified how much oil does it take?
I think it Should be 5 qts.
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Got it. Thanks
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Now that it's identified how much oil does it take?
As stated 5qts. is normal but YOU can do some home work to determine if that works with the oil pan/dipstick combination that you have.
This can be done with water before any restoration work.
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It's a 1953 F100 truck V8 flathead oil pan. One year only.
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It's a 1953 F100 truck V8 flathead oil pan. One year only.
Yes, indeed, this picture of a '53 F100 and the location of the dipstick seem to verify that.
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Me, I'd put the pan on the assembled engine, mount the engine in the chassis (with full weight), put 5 quarts of oil in it. Then you can see where the level is on the dipstick and mark the dipstick with a blunt chisel.

Now you know exactly where the oil level should be - in your car, at whatever angle it happens to end up in.
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I thought all truck pans had the big cleanout plate on the bottom?
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Old 05-14-2021, 02:40 PM   #34
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I'm not questioning you guys but the sump on this pan is massive. But if it's from a truck could it possibly hold more than 5 quarts?
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The '53 truck flathead engines had some unique parts, like the straddle-mounted bell housing, central front engine mount, '49 car-style wide belt water pumps and the full sump oil pan discussed above and correctly identified by '42merc.
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I'm not questioning you guys but the sump on this pan is massive. But if it's from a truck could it possibly hold more than 5 quarts?
Yes it's possible so just verify as shown in post #29 using your pan and dipstick.
You don't have to mount it on any engine.
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My 53 Merc. EAC has no windage tray but a baffle around the oil pump. That is the part of the pan that is bumped out. Wow there is a lot of different pan configurations out there. Good luck Kube .
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