crash

[Brian]

I've had my 35 since 1971, done a million miles in the old thing.....today some dear old Doris, driving her Suzuki Swift to church drove straight through a give way sign, T-boned my 35, which spun out and careened backwards into a tree. Me thinks it's a Write off. Major damage throughout; I'd say even the chassis is bent.
Moaning is now over!

[swoopNZ]

Try Dave in Inglewood.
Ring him then send some pictures.
They have worked on a lot of pre-war Ford V8's.
Bought 1 or 2 of mine back from the dead.
021 459 263

[Brian]

Yeah, thanks for that, I'll have to wait and see what insurance company says. I doubt they'll want to fix it. They'll no doubt give me what they assess it as being worth, which will be no where enough...

[prez]

Bad day for the old 35 mate ! Thanks for letting me drive her recently also thanks for all your help with my 36 stuff

[51woodie]

Brian. I don't know what insurance companies are like in NZ, but here in Canada, they always try to deny or save themselves as much money as they can. I have had a few occasions where I avidly disputed their offers. I one case, they told me my old 82 5.0 Mustang was only worth $250 (scrap value) because of it's age and mileage. A friend had an under hood fire in his Corvette, that blistered the hoods custom paint job. The insurance said, the only shop he could take it to, because of its age, was one of those "full body paint job for $500" shops. The owner of the custom shop where the car was painted intervened, and the car was put on a closed car hauler for a 400 km one way trip to the custom shop. They paid for all of the repairs.

[Frank Miller]

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I am not sure how it really works but Grundy has an agreed value policy and will insure your car for what you think it is worth. By having it insured at a higher value you can verify that is what it is worth. If you have a car insured for a lesser value they have a case. My 49 in insured for 35k which is a little more than I could selll it for but not outrageous.

[KiWinUS]

Very sorry to hear Brian. Has to be like losing a family member. Hopefully this bad situation will take a turn for the good. I certainly hope you are not hurt physically Brian.

[fortyfords]

Wow, losing it after 50 years, I'd be sad too.

[corvette8n]

I looked at the pictures of your ‘35 in your album, It sure is a beauty, I hope things work out for you.

[jrvariel48]

This sure is sad news, sorry

[Karl]

Sorry Brian - I know how much the car means to you !
Hopefully you are all ok . I always worry about an accident in our cars with no seatbelts crumble zones etc .My father used to say then any accident that you all walk away from is a good one but I bet it doesn't feel like that currently.

One of my mates has his classic car written off -He got the money from the insurance company and was able to buy the write off back from them and restored it with the insurance money. Who are you insured with ? -Karl

[JWL]

Very sad to hear your explanation of the "accident". I can not say I know how you feel but I can say it must be horrible. Makes me wish I could help in some way. Also makes me ashamed my 35 has been sitting in the storage building for 10 years.

Good Luck,
JWL

[mfirth]

So very sorry about your car. Thank God you weren't hurt. Can't imagine........
mike

[deuce_roadster]

Well, if you have no permanent damage to yourself (which I REALLY HOPE), that is most important. Truly sad. I wouldn't think a Suzuki could harm an old Ford that seriously which should have outweighed it by probably 2. Sorry to hear it, she must have been going pretty fast. F=MA as my physics teacher would say.

[Clem Clement]

We hope you are OK.
Clem

[Russ/40]

Super bummer, I'm so sorry to hear that. There just is not a thing you can do about stupid people. Hopefully you will be successful with the insurance, and that it can be brought back to service. Good luck.

[Karl Wescott]

NUMBER ONE. Hopefully everyone involved not injured.


In the US, in most states, there are (at least*) two different insurance agreements. First, is the one that you pay your insurer for damages to your property. This is usually limited by your insurance agreement. The second is the insurance you pay for damages you cause to another (or they paid for damages to you). And while the liability companies in the US will lie about limits and what can be done ultimately there is a right to go before a judge and the judge sets the amount (of course if you get greedy that might be less than what the other guys insurance might have paid).


You are dealing with a major property loss, where "value" is difficult to determine. Contact your lawyer (or solicitor, or whatever) for expert advise on what your rights are and the other parties responsibilities are.


*In Oregon at least two more, Injury insurance which is pooled among all involved without regards to fault, and "un-insured motorist" which partially covers what would be a liability claim against the other guy when they do not have insurance.

[my4dv8]

Sheeets. But are you Ok physically . Emotionally destroyed I imagine. I am shedding tears for you. And you more than likely didn’t even get a chance to try out the new brakes you recently fitted. Let us know what the insurance co thinks as its now Monday morning.

[cas3]

So sorry to hear this Brian. best wishes on the outcome for you

[Bored&Stroked]

Hey Brian - first of all, very glad that you're safe - that is by far the most important. With that said, I think I'd be almost sick to have a car that had been in my life that long end up a total wreck out of somebody else's inability to drive their car.

While we all know that cars are just material things in life (and not as important as people), it would still be a very sad day for me to realize what just happened to my ole' Ford Friend . . .

[Mart]

Really sorry to hear this. I hope you are ok. That's the most important thing. When you say write off, do you mean it will be written off and they take it away, or will you be able to repair it (if it is repairable)? If written off, there must still be a hell of a lot of good parts that have not been damaged??

What can be salvaged from this bad situation?

Mart.

[Viv W]

So sorry to hear this sad news Brian, I sincerely hope you will be able to repair the car and get back onto the road again.
I hope that physically you are okay, however, if you have a sore neck or back from the accident, go and have xrays done and get checked out for whiplash. Damage to your neck or spine can be treated, as long as it is done timeously, by having physio treatments, however if you don't sort it out and leave it, you could end up with problems in years to come.
You can claim these medical expenses from the insurance companies or the guilty driver.
Wishing you all the best
regards
Viv.

[Ian NZ]

Sorry to hear about your 35 Brian. All the best with your insurance company. Our family we have a lot of classic cars between us, is having trouble with dealing with insurance companys here being with A.M.I they used have a branch here where I live, but they closed it down and the nearest branch is in a city N.P now they have have closed that down and the nearest branch is up North miles away and you are dealing with some hard to understand language woman. We wanted to deal with someone local because it can get complicated and there is only two insurance companys in this area left. The trouble all these insurance companys work together on the same system. If it was my car if the Insurance Company wrote it off I would want it back.

[Talkwrench]

Ohhh nooo BB... You have had some shit luck lately mate , ahh man I cant believe it

[Brian]

you know, thanks fellas for the wishes....I'm still smiling, I mean stuff happens....things are; it's not just the panel damage, it's like, how do I replace the nos locking hubcap, which is now destroyed, bought for top dollar from the USA, the spare wheel cover, which was a real good one, purchased off of a USA Fordbarn member, it's those little personalised, treasured bits that are irreplaceable, how do I replace stuff like that?
I only have third party insurance on all my old vintage stuff; after all, I'm not gonna prang it am I?...lol. So, my insurance is meaningless in this case. OK, my fault for not carrying comprehensive insurance. And this old biddy who hit me, yes Ian, she's with AMI. I finally got through to them on the phone, they haven't received a claim from her. her car is totalled! I've tried ringing her repeatedly, no answer. I hope the old dear hasn't gone and died or whatever!!
The fun of it all.

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My God, Brian....that's 50 years you've had that thing. I'm sorry to hear this. It is so nice looking in the pics. Good luck on the outcome. DD

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Ian NZ

Sorry to hear about your 35 Brian. All the best with your insurance company. Our family we have a lot of classic cars between us, is having trouble with dealing with insurance companys here being with A.M.I they used have a branch here where I live, but they closed it down and the nearest branch is in a city N.P now they have have closed that down and the nearest branch is up North miles away and you are dealing with some hard to understand language woman. We wanted to deal with someone local because it can get complicated and there is only two insurance companys in this area left. The trouble all these insurance companys work together on the same system. If it was my car if the Insurance Company wrote it off I would want it back.

I think AMI got hit really badly in the Christchurch quake and they have downsized to survive. My insurance is all with Vero through the Vintage car club - really cheap premiums and by report ( i haven't had a claim yet) really good cover -Karl

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Brian

you know, thanks fellas for the wishes....I'm still smiling, I mean stuff happens....things are; it's not just the panel damage, it's like, how do I replace the nos locking hubcap, which is now destroyed, bought for top dollar from the USA, the spare wheel cover, which was a real good one, purchased off of a USA Fordbarn member, it's those little personalised, treasured bits that are irreplaceable, how do I replace stuff like that?
I only have third party insurance on all my old vintage stuff; after all, I'm not gonna prang it am I?...lol. So, my insurance is meaningless in this case. OK, my fault for not carrying comprehensive insurance. And this old biddy who hit me, yes Ian, she's with AMI. I finally got through to them on the phone, they haven't received a claim from her. her car is totalled! I've tried ringing her repeatedly, no answer. I hope the old dear hasn't gone and died or whatever!!
The fun of it all.

I hope she is ok but they don't handle the shock of it very well . A couple of years ago I was at a vintage car show and an elderly couple were rear ended as they sat waiting to turn into the event ( a young kid looking down to text as he was driving). Man was it some bang One of the other Doctors I work with was there and we provided first aid until the ambulance arrived -Between us there was 70+ years of medical experience but there is little you can do with no gear -We we worried about the man who was quite shocked The ambulance staff felt he was fine and were worried about his wife. They took both to hospital she was discharged after 2 days he spent 3 weeks in hospital and unfortunately passed away . He never really got over the shock of it -Karl

[slowforty]

Sorry about your accident.
If you look at look at my avatar you can see the damage done at the last accident.(Dont ask about the other two) A lady hit me in the rear end. From what I can surmise ,she was on a cell phone and swerved to almost avoid hitting me. As I was slowing down to enter a gas station. I was properly insured with Grundy and had no problems. The only issue was that the body shop took three years to finish the repairs. But the results were great.
Sorry to hijack this tread. I hope everything ends well for you. But get yourself some good representation.

[Jeff/Illinois]

Sorry to hear of this. You seem to be in OK shape, accidents are never good. Glad you weren't hurt any more than you were.

It is sad to lose an antique like that especially a '35 Ford Coupe, one of my favorites.

If it had been me, I would have probably lost it on 'Dear Doris' she would have needed an ambulance by the time I got thru with her....................

A couple of weeks ago (kind of similar) there was an auction in S. Carolina of petroliana collectibles. Somebody, being careless, knocked a table over and destroyed four glass gasoline globes, dating back to the late 1920's. Gheez people use a little thought before you do something. Stupid.

[Phil Gillespie]

Brian,
I certainly feel for you especially when its not your fault. Being the innocent party is some comfort but it will not return your pide and jpy and your lifelong friend to its original status.
Physically hope you are ok. This mishap is a problem you certainly did not plan for and hope it will be resolved to some form of satisfaction for you.
Now comes the time factor of sorting it all out Insurance Company and the like.
All the best.
Phil NZ

[FlatheadTed]

Bad News Brian bad news ,You should be able to get the wreak back ,

[Ian NZ]

Brian I think you better see a lawyer because if she failed to give way you will have to prove it is her fault if you want to claim off her A.M.I Insurance and the police could get involved unless she admits the accident is her fault, and you will have to have proof of the cost of the damage to your car, Any photos taken of the accident. If you have only got third party insurance you will be able to have the last say about your car. This could be expensive.

[aussie merc]

sound like the other party is at fault hope shes insured your insurance company should go into bat on your behalf and pursue them for total repair regardless of cost .

[mercman from oz]

Very sorry to hear of your accident. Your 1935 Ford Fordor Sedan looked very nice.
I hope that you can get it repaired. Regards Mercman <><

[1934]

Sorry to hear about this, what a nightmare! Hopefully no one was hurt. What a shame to see that beautiful car wrecked! Good luck to you.
Doug.

[tub1]

sorry to hear of your crash take care sometimes things take a few days to show up I was laying foundation blocks for my workshop the day after i had a accident I had a stiff neck but thought I was ok 9 days later I woke up with eye movement only, 3 cracked vertibray was my problem so get yourself checked out very well young man

[tub1]

also that 35 flat back is a great looking car I had a black one the same years ago and sold it

[McMimmcs]

Now you find out how good or bad your insurer is.

[David J]

Sorry about your toy being broken . Good that you are OK though . Dave

[Shu47]

Sad sad sad to hear this. Hopefully it can be repaired. Glad you are OK. I guess that is what really counts but still sad the car was damaged.

[Graeme / New Zealand]

Buuugger! as the old Toyota truck add goes. Glad you are OK Brian. I see you have some of those little "Desmo" back-up lights on the back. If you decide to rebuild and need one let me know and I will donate a mint unused one.

take care
GB