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Old 10-20-2014, 12:38 PM   #1
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I was recently re-arranging some "stuff" in my shop, I pulled out an engine that I had acquired many years ago. The stampings on the engine are not anything that I'm familiar with; The bore is 3-3/16, heads are 59 AB, block has, E27722 M.. cast into the bell-housing, with a very faint 59 that is very hard to see a couple of inches below the casting numbers.
I would appreciate any help to identify the engine..
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:09 PM   #2
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If your engine has this shelf, it is a 39' or 40' ford.

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Old 10-20-2014, 04:05 PM   #3
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There are some 59 engines with that shelf, and these were cast late war/post war, they had 59 on the bell but in my experience no A or B or anything after the 59. The ones I've seen and the one I have are 3 1/16". Could have easily been bored to 3 3/16" somewhen in the past though.
These 59 blocks have the shelf, 59A have no shelf. The shelf ran up to late war ish, 1942 end earlier had shelf, not just '39 and '40.
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I also have one of these engines as discribeb by Scooder except mine was 3 3/16 when I got it and it has what appears to be a factory relief.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:40 PM   #5
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If your engine has this shelf, it is a 39' or 40' ford.
41 & 42 also had the J ledge (actually all 221 v8s 1932-1942)
So did 39-42 239s--the 99 blocks

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Old 10-21-2014, 04:32 AM   #6
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The center water port in the block is round on the engine I have in lieu of being a triangle. The pan has a flywheel cover that unbolts like a truck pan.. Since the block has a faint 59 cast into the bell-housing, I'm guessing that the engine is some kind of an industrial/truck engine. The engine also has cap bolts like an 8BA in lieu of studs, of course this only means the engine is not a virgin, it's been worked on, probably several times.
From my limited experience, I don't consider myself to be much of an engine person, I know that 59AB heads on an engine don't mean dedittely, however, the 59 cast onto the block does. The numbers cast onto the block,( E27722 M) have some significance, as to what it is, is the big question??
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41 & 42 also had the J ledge (actually all 221 v8s 1932-1942)
So did 39-42 239s--the 99 blocks

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I was just recalling an old junk yard man's use of the "pencil test" when trying to identify FH blocks. He said, "If you put a pencil on the shelf and it stays, it's probably a 39'-40'. If the pencil rolls off, it aint'."
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:32 PM   #8
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Is the bottom water hole round aswell? This is how mine are on the 59 block here.
The casting number E27722M, no idea, not sure anyone can decipher that. My engine has a very similar number.
It is a 59 block, pencil ledge type. Late war or just post war. Not a 59A or later.
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