Pelican Grey, Canadian and Export Cars

[Tinbasher]

All good inspiration!! I'll keep working on finding these Canadian Colours. Since this post we've found 2 samples of Evergreen and a Sample of Vernon Green on cars. We try to find three samples of each colour to varify that the colour is right.
Some of the research is interesting. The Cameo cream was used by Cadillac in 41 and then Gm used it right up into the 70's. Then they called it Butternut Yellow. But the same colour. You'll also notice that different companys used the same colour.

[jb-ob]

Tinbasher,

Keep digging. 1929 Ford 'Mountain Brown' returned in 1932 as 'Winter Leaf Brown Light'.

1928 Fordor window reveal color ' Pembroke Gray' was also found as a Chrysler color.

[rackops]

I look forward to what comes up. I'm personally curious about Evergreen...it seems to be a legitimate 1928 color for Canadian cars. If it can be recreated, I might go down that road in the restoration of my 28 Phaeton (I think green would be superb...my wife is partial to Dark Niagara Blue...at any rate, she's definitely vetoed Arabian Sand, which was the original color...ah well).

[rackops]

Spent some more time digging through newspapers online, both in Australia and Canada from the 1927-1929 time period. Some interesting stuff.

Here's a used Model A in Australia that was repainted in "buff and brown" with red spoke wheels. Nice!

[rackops]

Not color related, but I thought this was interesting. Apparently being "imported" from Canada was a selling point.

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Here are a couple of mentions of colors from the Australian used car sections. First, a Fordor with maroon leather. Then, a Sports Roadster in "red and tan", and finally, a tourer in "grey duco".

[rackops]

Early on, in Canada, there was quite a bit of ink spilled about the number of optional colors. Not sure what those were, as I haven't found a list. It would be interesting to get a 1928 Canadian dealer's guide.

[rackops]

Here are a few snippets from 1928 and early 1929 about the colors available:

[ModelA29]

I wonder if the colors were the same but with different names? I know at least back to the fifties they would change the paint names yearly but they were the same colors. Ford & Merc would use the same colors with different names in the same year.

[Bick in New Zealand]

Great to see the discussion continuing around the Canadian colours. In my research on this it is interesting to note, that the New Ford was introduced in both Australia and New Zealand on the 15th May. In newspaper reports of this, most just mention a 'range' of attractive colours, but a number in both countries, list the colours as Arabian Sand, Niagara Blue, Dawn Grey, and Gunmetal Blue.

[Bick in New Zealand]

This is what we need to find, then there would be no arguments.

[Tinbasher]

Evergreen is one of the colours we've found. It' looks just like a Pine tree green.
I have a PPG Delfleet Code# 413400.

It was also used by Chrysler in the 50's.

[Tinbasher]

Yes, wouldn't that be nice.
Here's the colour names.
Evergreen
Pelican Grey
Mandalay Green (This one I have no leeds at all)
Richelieu Blue " " " " "
Carmine Red. Found a Porsche colour same name but too Red.
Mount Vernon Green. The one we have. Thank Bick
Nankeen Brown (No Info)
Henna Red This one we have. The colour is on Everret Hessels Sport Roadster
Cameo Cream " " " " Chevy Butternut Yellow
Mist Grey another mystery
Classic Blue This one we have. A dark Blue with a touch of green Sikkens Colour map Code 477F1
Babbit Metal Another one with no info.

Canadian Engine Green and Grey. Also no confirmed colours. I have it on my car it's darker than the american colour. not confirmed yet. I found the original colour between the flywheel housing and engine block.

So that's where that stands as of today.

[rackops]

This is some great information!

Bick - thanks for posting that booklet. Do you have any clue of what "spring in a complementary color" means? (Yes, I know it's English...but I don't know if it means something more than what it's saying as it doesn't make sense...)

I will admit that in addition to finding these colors (partially because I like the esoteric) I'm trying to find a unique, but original, color for my car. My wife likes blue (and she does get 51% of the vote!) but I'm thinking Evergreen might be a winner. Between that and being RHD, it won't be "just like all the rest" (which is why I bought a RHD one and thoroughly love it).

Just have to figure out the contrasting color (thus my "spring" question above) and pinstripes (French Grey? As in the survivor Canadian roadster posted elsewhere, pic below.)

[rackops]

Here are some photos that Dave Slater sent me of a "survivor" Phaeton located in Australia. I'm certain the grey overall color is from a 1950's restoration, but the tan color under the grey...could that possibly be another match? Or is that simply primer? (Or, as we've discovered, paint that some guy named Bruce had the dealership paint the car when he bought it in 1931...)

[Bick in New Zealand]

"spring in a complementary color" means? I think it's a typo and meant to mean 'striping'

The attached photos are of an original unrestored Evergreen 1928 Sport coupe here in NZ. The mouldings are black and the stripe is orange.

[rackops]

Originally Posted by Bick in New Zealand

"spring in a complementary color" means? I think it's a typo and meant to mean 'striping'

The attached photos are of an original unrestored Evergreen 1928 Sport coupe here in NZ. The mouldings are black and the stripe is orange.

Thanks Bick! I figured the "spring" meant something else, but this wouldn't have been the first time I've been left scratching my head over the meanings of words in "English" and "English" (e.g. "King's English" vs "American English"!)

Thanks for sharing the photos of that sport coupe. I think that combination is superb and I'm going to opt in that direction. I appreciate it!

[Tinbasher]

The Tan Colour is interesting. Not Arabian Sand Light. It's lighter than that colour.

I'll be saving that picture. Could be one of the browns. JP

[Tinbasher]

Yes, That's Evergreen. Matchs the colour sample I sprayed out.

[David in San Antonio]

The advertisement Bick posted on page 1 also promises “doping and greening”. Anyone care to offer a definition? And are these two discrete things?