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Old 11-08-2017, 08:55 PM   #1
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Tried using the search option and can’t find anything on removing a four banger. Where do I hook the hoist and what size bolts do I use to bolt the motor to the engine stand.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:10 PM   #2
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"Eye Bolts" are sold by most venders. I use two, that screw right into the spark plug holes. As far as the question of size bolts, I would think that is dictated by the engine stand and how you want it on the stand i.e. side mount or rear. Hope this helps some.
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I used I bolts that I got from a vendor's site. I inserted the eye bolts into the sparkplug holes of cylinders 1 and 4.

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Old 11-08-2017, 09:15 PM   #4
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Knock the ceramic out of a couple old spark plugs and sling from the #3 and #1 cylinders. Bolt size determined by what points you use for a stand. Be care full of using the left front motor mount attach below the generator as any twisting will crack the timing gear housing.

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Old 11-08-2017, 09:22 PM   #5
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i would say that if you are thinking about taking the engine out, you should probably get Les Andrews' red book.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:24 PM   #6
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"Eye Bolts" are sold by most venders. I use two, that screw right into the spark plug holes. As far as the question of size bolts, I would think that is dictated by the engine stand and how you want it on the stand i.e. side mount or rear. Hope this helps some.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:34 PM   #7
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As far as bolting the engine to a stand do not bolt it up from the end. Instead use the adapter sold by the vendors to attach at the lower water inlet. It is a bit pricey but it is the best way to hold the engine on a stand. Lifting the engine by the adapters in the spark plug holes is a good way to go. And yes get Les Andrews volume 1 book. It is a great step by step resource for working on A's.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:36 PM   #8
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:21 PM   #9
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The reason you fab a bracket for your engine stand at the lower water port and oil pan flange is so you can fit the rear main bearing cap properly during overhaul. I use nylon slings around the whole block..or knock the center out of a coupla spark plugs, your choice.
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What is a banger. Is that a guy chasing girls?
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Old 11-09-2017, 10:46 AM   #11
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What is a banger. Is that a guy chasing girls?
Thank you George! It makes me cringe every time I hear that reference to the "A" engine.
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:48 AM   #12
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Thank you George! It makes me cringe every time I hear that reference to the "A" engine.
Love when the “thread etiquette police come out” now I know why I never start a thread. Thanks for the help
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Thank you George! It makes me cringe every time I hear that reference to the "A" engine.
I agree. If it's banging, it's time for a serious repair. Guess that's why it's coming out.

I've used 2 plug holes to lift it out, and I've use woven (not twisted) nylon rope or seat belts to lift the engine. I loop the nylon rope around the inlet casting and the intake manifold, and it works great with no paint damage.
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Old 11-09-2017, 01:51 PM   #14
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"banger" is short for "four banger" which simply refers to the number of cylinders. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not a derogatory term in any way, in fact, if anything it's more of an endearing term than anything. However, we all have our quirky pet peaves. Mine is "RPM's"
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"banger" is short for "four banger" which simply refers to the number of cylinders. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not a derogatory term in any way, in fact, if anything it's more of an endearing term than anything. However, we all have our quirky pet peaves. Mine is "RPM's"
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Mine is "RPM's" I agree. RPM is ALREADY plural, and the possessive S does nothing for it! GLMKE, don't worry about some nitpicking. The term fourbanger has been discussed before and some people consider it derogatory. I see their point/I've been there myself but not worth getting upset about. As far as your second point of what size bolts to use to mount it to the engine stand, I use a Harbor Freight stand, with no modification. Just make sure the bolts thread into the mounting points good and deep. I used long enough bolts that they just started to bottom out, so I added washer/spacers to them.
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Mine is "RPM's" I agree. RPM is ALREADY plural, and the possessive S does nothing for it!
EXACTLY Thank you.
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