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Old 04-05-2015, 11:14 PM   #1
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Ok, was able to finagle the spark rod into submission, next was to install the starter rod and the hole is almost one and a half inches off to the left. Engine is centered in frame and cowl seems sitting where it belongs. What would cause this much misalignment?? This body comes from Canada.
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Old 04-05-2015, 11:18 PM   #2
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Can't wait to see what they have to say about this. I have not a clue!
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:01 AM   #3
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Crazy question, was this the original purpose for the curved starter rod?? Was the cowl penetration relocated at some point? What is a good measuring point for the horizontal location of the penetration and what would that be in inches?
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I just went out and looked at mine. That hole is off. Are you sure that rod is mounted correctly? There is no way that is in the right position..Canadian or not.
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I have never heard of a curved starter rod.
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Ok, was able to finagle the spark rod into submission, next was to install the starter rod and the hole is almost one and a half inches off to the left. Engine is centered in frame and cowl seems sitting where it belongs. What would cause this much misalignment?? This body comes from Canada.
The hole for the starter rod was offset to the passenger side on the earlier 1928 bodies, hence the offset starter rod. Can you tell us a little more about your body. IE: What year is it? Left hand emergency brake? Any other of the VE28 features?
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:48 AM   #7
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The hole for the starter rod was offset to the passenger side on the earlier 1928 bodies, hence the offset starter rod. Can you tell us a little more about your body. IE: What year is it? Left hand emergency brake? Any other of the VE28 features?
The car was assembled in Canada, a Tudor, fire wall date is 1928, e brake is pistol grip, on right side of gear shift. Have never seen date on the frame. Vern
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Think mine has a curved starter rod. RHD hole maybe?
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I know very little about the VE28's.

Restoration guidelines;

The offset starter switch rod was obsolete at about
vehicle 50,000.
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What are other defining features of early 28 bodies?
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What are other defining features of early 28 bodies?
The parking brake lever is by the left kick panel for the first 5 months.
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Looks like a case for a solenoid and starter button on the dash.
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The parking brake lever is by the left kick panel for the first 5 months.
This is probably the easiest way to tell quickly, but unfortunately the brake lever hole remained for a while after the brake lever was moved to the center. On top of that, the starter rod was changed to a straight rod quite a while before the brake lever was moved, so it's not a dead giveaway. The earliest Tudor bodies had several unique features that would help to pinpoint the production date of the body but most are difficult to explain without showing photos.

As for the firewall date, it's very likely the gas tank may have been changed somewhere along the line so the date isn't a dead giveaway either. Same with the emergency brake lever on the transmission. It's very likely that the transmission top was changed over the years.

Is there a body number stamped onto the subrail underneath the front of the driver seat? That would be helpful.


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You clearly have an E-28 cowl. What choke rod support do you have on the gas tank? I can see by your picture that the lip where the cowl lacing attaches is also '28 as it does not protrude forward beyond the front edge. AS Tom mentioned above, you most likely will have the hole by the left kick panel for the left brake.
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I will look at it now, thanks
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Here are some pictures that may help. Your hole
looks like it is also to low.

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looks like it is also to low.

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In looking at the photos posted by Bob C, the hole for the starter rod is slightly to the left of the "D" nut at the bottom of the firewall, in the photo posted by Vern Hodgson the hole for the starter rod is significantly further to the left. The hole in the Bob C photo appears to be at the same height as the photo posted by BOB C.

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In post #1, what is the large round hole in the motor mount on the forward side?
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In post #1, what is the large round hole in the motor mount on the forward side?
That's one of those Canadian motor mounts, eh?

Seriously though, it really is one of the Canadian cast mounts.



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You clearly have an E-28 cowl. What choke rod support do you have on the gas tank? I can see by your picture that the lip where the cowl lacing attaches is also '28 as it does not protrude forward beyond the front edge. AS Tom mentioned above, you most likely will have the hole by the left kick panel for the left brake.
He said it has a firewall date of 28 so I'm betting the tank has been changed. It's going to be interesting to see just how early the body really is.
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That is a Canadian motor mount.
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