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03-12-2017, 01:07 PM | #1 |
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Temperature gauge and thermostat
Has anyone ran the pipe with the temperature sending unit fitting and the thermostat at the same time? Is there enough room between the outlet at the head and the radiator to fit both in?
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03-12-2017, 02:20 PM | #2 |
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I just went out and took this photo. The thermostat and the temp sending unit fit before I changed to a Gano filter. There was not enough room for all three. Don't do as I did and tap the neck on the side where it interferes with the head nut......place it higher up or on the rear of the neck. I solved the problem that I created by altering a tool to fit under the sender and over the head nut. Now I can retorque when needed. Russ
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03-12-2017, 02:59 PM | #3 |
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I was going to use the tube with the fitting in it that Snyder sells. I was wondering if I put it in line would the thermostat fit also.
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I bought the upper neck for mine with the 1/2" pipe fitting already cast and tapped, my old neck was the wrong neck for my model year. My thermostat fits snug in the upper hose near the neck. I bought the tool from Bratton's knowing I would use it quite often and I didn't really want to take the torch to one of my good wrenches. It's very snug but it does work. I could grind the tool down on the outside for a better fit. Initially I bought the tool so I could retorque my head with out removing the distributor.
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03-12-2017, 03:36 PM | #5 |
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Larry, the Snyder set up is what I had that worked with a thermostat until I put the Geno filter in. I didn't plan well and tapped the next too low. I was able to grind the outside of the tool that Dennis shows until it fit between the head stud and the sending unit. "Measure twice, cut once" comes to mind. Russ
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03-12-2017, 05:33 PM | #7 |
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I thought about drilling and tapping a hole in the neck but I didn't think there was enough metal in the walls for it.
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03-12-2017, 06:18 PM | #9 |
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03-12-2017, 06:24 PM | #10 |
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The one that Vintage Precision is nice it's about $100.
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03-12-2017, 06:49 PM | #11 |
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Vintage Precision Thermostat housing:
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Yup, they are a nice looking piece of equipment but I don't think they are necessary. Thermostat in the top hose and sensor in the back of the neck (like politicians treat us!!) is fine.
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I use this Snap-On wrench for torquing head nuts that have an obstruction:
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I also have one like Carl shows, but it's homemade.
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I installed on my sedan a couple of years ago and it iis great
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The problem with the tube insert, which will only be aggravated by addition of a thermostat, is that it reduces the flexibility provided by the long radiator hose. As the motor bounces around and the hood/radiator assembly move, the solder connection to the radiator inlet will be stressed. However, in my experience, this is only a problem when you're on a trip far from home.
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03-13-2017, 04:52 PM | #19 |
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I could not put the pipe that the temp sensor fits in along with the thermostat in the top hose , not enough room.I had to buy the top outlet with the hole for the temp sensor.I dont have a problem torquing the headnuts because I use the offset adapter wrench.
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I fail to see what the problem is...
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03-16-2017, 09:17 PM | #21 |
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Wells said Y-Blockhead!!!
I have installed dozens with no problems.... and I agree with the flexing post above. the radiator,frame,engine all flexes, vibrates, and moves a lot, and those longer hoses absorb that flex. Steve @Bert's |
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I tried that with my Craftsman 11/16th and it won't go....the socket is 1" tall.... And I just bought the Snap-on offset wrench and it won't go either......hits the neck casting I still have to remove the temp probe to torque the head.....
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Something I found out yesterday when I was retorquing the head on a friends 30 coupe was that my adapter fits perfect. He has had the upper neck on his car for quite a few years now. Not only are those castings taller, they have a lot more room for a socket or adapter. Therefore I can't recommend the adapter or neck for a 28 or 29.
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My way and all my problems solved. 5/8" hole drilled into back of water neck. 1/2" black pipe nipple welded brazed to water neck over hole. With the half pipe nipple there are plenty of thread. Temp probe screws into pipe thread.
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According to this website: http://www.cncexpo.com/TorqueAdapter.aspx
If you use a crowfoot socket at 90° to the torque wrench, the torque will be the same as the torque wrench setting.
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That is a Craftsman socket I am using. But I think I see the difference. Mine is the taller outlet for the '30-31 and yours appears to be the shorter outlet for the '28-29. Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 03-17-2017 at 11:02 AM. Reason: Added verbage... |
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For those of you using a V-8 water pump. There is Kabota thermostat in the hose.
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I tried that also...still won't go....good idea though!
I'll see about finding a crow-foot.... Maybe this?
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1955cj5, besides the type of crowfoot you showed there's also the type that are like an open end wrench:
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