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Old 11-07-2016, 04:39 PM   #1
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Default Flathead show and tell what year is it?

Gentlemen - I have finally pulled the motor and trans from my 40 tudor and would like some input as the engine's credentials.
I have posted some photos below (don't know how to rotate them, sorry) and ask:
Is this a 40 motor with later parts added, or is it a later model in an older car.
Someone suggested that a filler tube at the front of the intake indicated that it could be a truck motor.
Note the distributor type.
Note that there is no casting id on the bellhousing only some tool marks that look like filing scratches.
Only castings are what looks like the digit "4" and a circle with the letters "K67".
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Old 11-07-2016, 04:47 PM   #2
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Default Re: Flathead show and tell what year is it?

'46 Canadian 239, pump setup looks to be passenger car or light commercial.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:05 PM   #3
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I wonder if Ford Canada started production like Ford USA in mid 1945 with commercials & trucks. The C in C59A indicates the Canadian manufacture and the 59A is 1945 design intro with 239 CID and A designates design revision. Pretty much just like 59A in USA manufacture.

The transmission number is a Canadian VIN but 1A prefix is older. Perhaps 1940/41.

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Old 11-07-2016, 06:06 PM   #4
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Here you go, jacked the contrast up on the transmission number, looks like 1A6746* to me:
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:53 PM   #5
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Looks like a later engine in a 40 with a home made battery box.
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:35 AM   #6
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I'd have the block cleaned, magged and if it passes that test - then pressure tested. If it is a good block, then you have a great platform to build from. If you like the earlier style flatheads (and I do), the 59x series is as good as any of them. Hopefully you're planning on rebuilding it and putting it back in the car.

Good luck!
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:06 AM   #7
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The bellhousing also seems to show the cast in 1940 vent tube.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:57 PM   #8
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So, consensus is that it is a later 40's motor, possibly commercial. Canadian car so no surprise about the "C" designation.
The comment regarding water pumps makes ask if there are specific part numbers, or can they be replaced with car pumps. One has a broken snout and needs to be replaced.
B&B - car was running and driveable, so if I can find a reliable and knowledgeable rebuilder, I would consider a freshening. Already have an Edelbrock 3x2 and rebuilt Strombergs
I have a WC Tremec T5 and chassis parts for an open driveline, so only need to find a 8" or 9" to complete the basics. Modern Driveline has all the other bits I need to make at all work.
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Old 11-08-2016, 01:29 PM   #9
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Should good. Which T5 is it, Chevy bolt pattern or Ford bolt pattern?
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Ford - from a '84 Mustang GT.
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:26 PM   #11
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Car pumps are the same '37-48 and have single sheave pulleys. Truck pumps (big truck, not pickup) have double sheaves that re close together and are internally different from passenger/commercial with different bearings and seals. Bus pumps are triple pulley...bu I don't think I've ever seen one!
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