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Old 02-10-2022, 12:43 PM   #1
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This ’32 Ford roadster features the holy grail of hot rods: an Ardun flathead, quick-change rear and a ’39 3-speed box.
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Old 02-10-2022, 12:59 PM   #2
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The Best of the Holy Grail would have a blower and a fold down chopped top.

https://fordauthority.com/2020/03/19...ardun-head-v8/

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I like Pete's version better
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Old 02-10-2022, 02:54 PM   #4
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I have driven a friend's 33 3w with an Ardun conversion with Webers and it reminded me alot of a really hot SBC or SBF, tached up extraordinarly quick. Wish I had deep enough pockets to build an engine with Ardun heads for my avatar.
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So Pete, What's the story?
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I like Pete's version better
I'd agree. It's not as schizophrenic as the red one and is much more cohesive.
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Old 02-10-2022, 05:49 PM   #7
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The Best of the Holy Grail would have a blower and a fold down chopped top.

https://fordauthority.com/2020/03/19...ardun-head-v8/
You have to re-mortgage your house to get a good Scott blower.

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Old 02-10-2022, 08:56 PM   #8
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How about Blue with and without a top plus a Big SCOT blower.
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Old 02-10-2022, 09:52 PM   #9
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Apples to oranges but Hotrod or not I prefer the look of a full fendered roadster. All shown examples are top notch though. I like 'em all but a stock looking '32 roadster floats my boat the best. Just my opinion.
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Hiboy with a Duvall, cycle fenders, Moons, and tuck & roll.
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Old 02-11-2022, 04:54 AM   #11
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Hiboy with a Duvall, cycle fenders, Moons, and tuck & roll.
"The Holy Grail of Hot Rods"! For anyone that knows what one of those MIGHT REALLY be, that is one hell of a MOUTHFULL of descriptive jargon. I knew this afternoon when this thread popped-up that any proper acknowledgement was going to require more than a few words about SOME prominently celebrated '32 Ford, The requisite 'Deuce Roadster' more than likely, probably equipped with some of the more-well-known and legendary goodies such as the aforementioned ARDUN heads, along with the required S.Co.T blower, and maybe a Halibrand quickie out back, and of course a set of those elusive, yet crummy, Kinmont "Safety Stop" Brakes. And yup, there were dozens and even hundreds of these types built back in the ages, some with eternal prominence in the hot rod world for one reason or another, and others that probably never should have been assembled in the first place.

In MY feeble opinion-for what that may be worth, there probably is NO single "Holy Grail" hot rod. But any car worthy of that consideration MUST be an old Ford to start with, as I truly believe that any bona fide 'hot rodder' is going to insist that the first, and any subsequent REAL hot rods were created from Henry's finest junkyard stock. My imagination and memories tend to place that Holy Grail rod as coming from a time period somewhere before the early 1960s, and usually favoring a legitimate 1940-ish through the very early '50s time period. But other years MAY also apply! In my case, this unbelievable time machine from 1955 just wreaks with Holiness. I am NOT a "T" guy, but these old 'phone booth' Ts always kind'a made my heart go 'pitter-patter'.

The car pictured below belongs to a H.A.M.B. regular who goes by "Mark Moriarity". He describes this "T" as being built in 1955. The perfect, uncut body rests on a shortened '32 chassis and runs with a '47 flathead, and a column shifted 3-speed. The traditional Ford wheels and '41 hub caps wrapped with outrageous, perfectly-sized and era-correct wide WW tires just accents the time period perfectly. A lot of thought went into blending all of the parts of this car to capture what appears to be a well-thought-out package that likely even caught the eye of those that came across it back in the '50s & '60s. I can only imagine this car being one step above and beyond what it represented back in the day (and now) if it might have had a 331" Caddy up front instead of the flathead. I know that I would have no problem being 'seen' in that rig....talk about "Stylin' "! That thing would go perfectly on the front of an "AMT" plastic model box. DD








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Old 02-11-2022, 08:23 AM   #12
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I’ll take the black one, less is more. The red car has too much gingerbread for my taste and even worse there are mixed themes in the build. Is it a roadster for cruising or does it want to be a race car? Hilborn injection on the street? Not practical and a tuning nightmare. And as far as roadability goes the builder should learn about scrub radius.
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Old 02-11-2022, 11:47 AM   #13
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Pete's car is Ford Barn all the way. Love it!
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Old 02-11-2022, 02:37 PM   #14
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"The Holy Grail of Hot Rods"! For anyone that knows what one of those MIGHT REALLY be, that is one hell of a MOUTHFULL of descriptive jargon. I knew this afternoon when this thread popped-up that any proper acknowledgement was going to require more than a few words about SOME prominently celebrated '32 Ford, The requisite 'Deuce Roadster' more than likely, probably equipped with some of the more-well-known and legendary goodies such as the aforementioned ARDUN heads, along with the required S.Co.T blower, and maybe a Halibrand quickie out back, and of course a set of those elusive, yet crummy, Kinmont "Safety Stop" Brakes. And yup, there were dozens and even hundreds of these types built back in the ages, some with eternal prominence in the hot rod world for one reason or another, and others that probably never should have been assembled in the first place.

In MY feeble opinion-for what that may be worth, there probably is NO single "Holy Grail" hot rod. But any car worthy of that consideration MUST be an old Ford to start with, as I truly believe that any bona fide 'hot rodder' is going to insist that the first, and any subsequent REAL hot rods were created from Henry's finest junkyard stock. My imagination and memories tend to place that Holy Grail rod as coming from a time period somewhere before the early 1960s, and usually favoring a legitimate 1940-ish through the very early '50s time period. But other years MAY also apply! In my case, this unbelievable time machine from 1955 just wreaks with Holiness. I am NOT a "T" guy, but these old 'phone booth' Ts always kind'a made my heart go 'pitter-patter'.

The car pictured below belongs to a H.A.M.B. regular who goes by "Mark Moriarity". He describes this "T" as being built in 1955. The perfect, uncut body rests on a shortened '32 chassis and runs with a '47 flathead, and a column shifted 3-speed. The traditional Ford wheels and '41 hub caps wrapped with outrageous, perfectly-sized and era-correct wide WW tires just accents the time period perfectly. A lot of thought went into blending all of the parts of this car to capture what appears to be a well-thought-out package that likely even caught the eye of those that came across it back in the '50s & '60s. I can only imagine this car being one step above and beyond what it represented back in the day (and now) if it might have had a 331" Caddy up front instead of the flathead. I know that I would have no problem being 'seen' in that rig....talk about "Stylin' "! That thing would go perfectly on the front of an "AMT" plastic model box. DD.
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Does anyone know of a SCOT blower for sale ? I have a friend in southern Maine looking for one for a '32 roadster project.

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Old 02-11-2022, 10:59 PM   #16
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With modern casting methods, CNC mold making, seems like those wouldn't be that hard to remake. They did it with the Ardun heads many years ago. I'm sure somebody could do it now easier. I bet several here would chip in a few K to make it happen. (I could)

Oh, I see Navarro is already doing this. I bet it costs them about 4k for what they are selling.

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Are we talking strip or street? It's hard to pick one overall winner.



Some really get charged up sometimes. All I do is just keep a couple of old fords on the road. That is an impressive 32.
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This guys build is an older one but a fun one.


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Mark Moriarity is very impressive. Even his lawn mowers are impressive.

One tour I found....
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This 32 is just perfect, great stance, very little in the way of restoration.
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