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Old 03-04-2021, 07:18 PM   #61
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Hey Tubman....I read this...
This distributor has no mechanical advance capability and relies solely on vacuum signals from the carburetor for advancing the spark. A special version of the Holley 94 was developed that supplies that specialized signal through a port about half way up the backside of the carburetor. If you don't have that special version, the distributor advance will not function. Simply connecting the distributor advance line to manifold vacuum will not work, as it supplies the wrong vacuum signal to the distributor.

So what carb? Where might I find one? Or at least that section of the carb?
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Old 03-04-2021, 08:01 PM   #62
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Hey Tubman....I read this...
This distributor has no mechanical advance capability and relies solely on vacuum signals from the carburetor for advancing the spark. A special version of the Holley 94 was developed that supplies that specialized signal through a port about half way up the backside of the carburetor. If you don't have that special version, the distributor advance will not function. Simply connecting the distributor advance line to manifold vacuum will not work, as it supplies the wrong vacuum signal to the distributor.

So what carb? Where might I find one? Or at least that section of the carb?
They are quite common and usually marked 8BA on the side. If you have limited resources where you are. I suggest you contact "Charlie ny" on this forum. As you may have seen on some other recent threads, he is a very knowledgeable and helpful gentleman and I am sure he can help you out.

I will now try to find pictures of what you need (I don't have any easily available as I am in Florida for the winter and away from my shop).

Found a picture of the one you need. Please notice the female fitting on the back side. That is where the vacuum line from the distributor attaches. This is all I could find in a hurry and I notice they are out of stock. Not to worry, they are around and not that hard to find. (Just because I posted a link to their picture is not a recommendation).

https://www.ecklers.com/carburetor-m...2-19669-1.html

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Old 03-05-2021, 05:16 AM   #63
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Not only do I have dumb questions, but dumb replies. Thanks.
Nothing dumb about this reply.

Foot throttle, hand throttle and choke. 3 levers. What's dumb about that?

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Old 03-05-2021, 09:57 AM   #64
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Welcome, I too was always a Vette guy. Now the Vette sits and I take out the Ford.

I agree take out the Ford and replace it with a 337 OK......lol
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The 8ba was the last flathead made by ford but the French copied it for there Mil vehicles and kept on till the 60’s ,only miner changes !
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Old 03-05-2021, 01:59 PM   #66
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Ahh! Now the term "solidaxle" makes sense....from one "Vette guy" (and owner) to another. DD


I still have a lot of numbers matching instilled in me from owning the Vette. Since this is the Ford Barn, I must expound. I don't do anything to the 32 that can't be reversed.The previous owner Gerald Groswold who owned it for 30 years, installed the 8ba, 39 tranney, juice brakes, hydraulic shocks. I turned it into the Hot rod is today without cutting the body or floor.
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Old 03-05-2021, 03:04 PM   #67
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The 8ba was the last flathead made by ford but the French copied it for there Mil vehicles and kept on till the 60’s ,only miner changes !

I believe they went on and used them into 90's and only in about 2002? did the
French sell off all the extra warehoused engines, parts and stock.

It was a great time to be in and around Texas as that's where the hundreds? of engines (and thousands of parts) all ended up.










































I wonder where they all went too?

You don't see much hype or info as to people who bought them
all those years ago





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Old 03-05-2021, 03:16 PM   #68
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Here's a Great Video of some French Flatheads in action.
Most of these ex military vehicles have the French Flathead in them,
there is however the odd puguet? or something in with them...

BTW, the hammering you hear in the cab is the auxiliary air-pump
that is used to run additional attached equipment and to run an air hose and tools etc.

The Flatheads sound great! but they should definitely spend some money on new tires...



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Old 03-05-2021, 04:56 PM   #69
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It was a great time to be in and around Texas...that's where the engines (and thousands of parts) all ended up.

I wonder where they all went to?

You don't see much hype or info as to people who bought them
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It was Christmas of 2002 I believe that my wife bought a crated block in cosmoline from Richard LeJuerrne of Halibrand in Kansas, as a surprise Christmas present for me. It's still in that crate today in my garage, and will likely be offered for sale very shortly. The few left have become rather spendy. DD
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Hmmm..I didn't reaize that was a diff carb. I have Holley/Ford 94s on my car...
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Old 03-05-2021, 08:29 PM   #71
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I have owned that 61 for 35 years and can't give it up. NCRS member 10654 and have had the car reach Top flight. I don't even look at Vetts anymore at car shows, well maybe a glance.
My favorite is the 61. First year of the round tail lights and last year of the painted coves. It was a tossup between getting a 32-40 Ford or another c1. You see what won out, but I feel like I might be in over my head.
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Old 03-05-2021, 08:57 PM   #72
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Hmmm..I didn't reaize that was a diff carb. I have Holley/Ford 94s on my car...

Just to be clear : the 8BA carburetors used on '49-'51 Fords ARE Holley/Ford 94's. They are just a different model. If you have the proper center section, I believe you could install it in one of your existing carburetors. I have never done it, as I like to keep as many original parts together as I can.
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Old 03-05-2021, 10:38 PM   #73
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My favorite is the 61. First year of the round tail lights and last year of the painted coves. It was a tossup between getting a 32-40 Ford or another c1. You see what won out, but I feel like I might be in over my head.
A 40 Ford over a Corvette. Being left handed you're in your right mind.
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:20 AM   #74
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Nah, ur not in over ur head! If u were mechanically inclined w the Vettes you’ll do fine w the Early Ford! With a little help here you’ll do fine & have fun doing it! I too was a Vette & GM muscle car guy pre my ‘35 Tudor around 2012. With these guys helping I’ve put a full wiring harness in it, converted to 12V, put new engine (8ba also), clutch pressure plate fly wheel, had 2 tranny’s in & out several times, & due to ring & piston issues recently refreshed engine w Rod bearings, rods, Pistons & rings. Can’t say there wasn’t a lot of loud cursing along the way but in general fun & satisfying when complete! Keep asking “the dumb questions” because they really aren’t & how we all learned here on The Barn! Enjoy the Ride!
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Old 03-08-2021, 09:51 AM   #75
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Just a little advice. I always try to use the search engine feature in the tool bar before I ask a question in the forms with good results. Make sure your spelling is correct and try a couple of different ways to form your question. BTW don't ever ask what oil should I use in my flattie. HaHa
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Didn't Simca use the flathead V8 for a few years? May have even had a column shifted 4-speed? I think I knew a young lady who had one in the 60's.


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Simca 4 speed for a Ford Flathead I think?
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Welcome to the club! I've only had kind answers to my first questions.
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