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Old 12-18-2020, 09:50 PM   #1
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What is the best steering box for model a roadster?
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:05 PM   #2
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The one that Randy Gross sells !
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What is the best steering box for model a roadster?
That is like asking, "how far is up?"
We need more info.
1-What is the car used for? Street only, race only, combination street and race?
2-What is your definition of "best"? Best cost, best driving, best looking?
3-Power or non power?
4- Completely stock looking or modified looking?
5-Prefered color?
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Old 12-19-2020, 01:26 AM   #4
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That is like asking, "how far is up?"
We need more info.
1-What is the car used for? Street only, race only, combination street and race?
2-What is your definition of "best"? Best cost, best driving, best looking?
3-Power or non power?
4- Completely stock looking or modified looking?
5-Prefered color?
You forgot, "what type of oil" should I use?
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Old 12-19-2020, 01:29 AM   #5
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You forgot, "what type of oil" should I use?
I wasn't trying to be a smart ass.
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Old 12-19-2020, 05:44 AM   #6
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Old 12-19-2020, 12:04 PM   #7
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Some of this info comes from secrets magazine July 2004, F100 boxes 53 to 56, they are the same length as stock A. I've read that the f100,f250 and f350 all the same length. 1957 to 60 are 1'' shorter.
I was lucky to find a 56 because it was the first year the turn signals were built into the column. You'll have to trim down the flange on the box to fit inside the frame rail, you can use 1 of the existing bolt holes and drill 2 more.
I used the f100 pitman arm because it's much better, It must be modified slightly to work, I removed the 5/8" bolt and replaced it with a 7/16" grade 8 bolt, I took a piece of 5/8" round stock about 2" long and drilled a 7/16" hole through it and offset to the outside edge then tack welded in place, then cut 1/8" out of it at the gap for compression, then mill or grind the top off so it will not hit the bottom of fender.
For the lites I just used a push pull replacement switch, and a starter button for the horn.
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On mine, you can't tell it from a model A inside the cab, and lights & horn work as original.
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Old 12-20-2020, 12:23 AM   #9
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NickC thanks! Great info. Exactly what I was looking for
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Old 12-20-2020, 10:18 AM   #10
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On mine, you can't tell it from a model A inside the cab, and lights & horn work as original.

Mine too...


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Call Randy Gross and order one. He also has restored columns. 714 292 8660
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i wasn't trying to be a smart ass.
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Old 12-21-2020, 10:58 PM   #13
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There's a book on it.
https://www.verntardel.com/store/p29...ook_%231_.html
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:40 AM   #14
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Is there anyone that rebuilds the ‘31 steering box ?

Id buy (another box) from Gross, but the price for f100 is now over $900. With transport/tax !
Paid about $250 from old man Mel Gross many yrs ago.
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Old 12-23-2020, 06:14 PM   #15
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Call Bill Hansen in Ramona 760-789-8296. He does great quality work and is very good to deal with.

As for our prices, $250.00 was probably 20 or more years ago. We been doing them for almost 30 years now.
F100 steering box cores alone today are close to the $250.00 if you can find them.
Then you have to add a new steering column shaft, new worm gear, new sector roller, new bearings and races, teardown, cleaning, machining and assembling.
It all adds up real quickly!
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Call Bill Hansen in Ramona 760-789-8296. He does great quality work and is very good to deal with.

As for our prices, $250.00 was probably 20 or more years ago. We been doing them for almost 30 years now.
F100 steering box cores alone today are close to the $250.00 if you can find them.
Then you have to add a new steering column shaft, new worm gear, new sector roller, new bearings and races, teardown, cleaning, machining and assembling.
It all adds up real quickly!
A very good explanation, thank you.
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Mel Gross put in a 1956 box in ours. Still works great!
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Old 12-25-2020, 02:16 AM   #18
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Hey Randy,
Your Dad and YOU have provided GREAT service and products to our hobby. And I am only one of many grateful guys... to both of you.
I miss seeing you at the boys home swap meet this year. You are one of the nicest hobbiest Ive known !
Thanks again for the phone # and name for help to rebuild my A box.
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Went ahead and bought one of these books. Not a very big book but plenty of info in it.
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