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vincent · 07-19-2023, 04:59 AM

Hello folks
while sorting out my old genuine starter from the 34 Ford I found the Bendix spring is broken. As the starter is 6V and the car now runs 12V I thought about an upgrade and found this:
https://www.mymromarts.com/new-12-vo...pO4yLWEfuZ2AQY

Now this starter is cheap and if it fits the 34, I would not need to have all the work done to the old one. Can you verify that this starter would fit my 34?
Thanks!
Harty

Edit: just found out that my 34 starter has got 10 teeth, this unit only has 9 so would not work....

fortyonerag · 07-19-2023, 06:44 AM

You'll hear folks say that the 12V conversion is hard on the Bendix because the starter spins faster. There might be something to this as I did in fact break a Bendix when I converted to 12V!

I wound up installing a different starter drive head as I read they didn't break:

https://cgfordparts.com/starter-driv...ml#description

They are a bit fiddly to install (you need to compress them to fit) and have a 'rattly' sound, but so far so good.

19Fordy · 07-19-2023, 08:16 AM

vincent: Those "new drive" starters don't compare to the quality of the original style Bendix.

Do yourself a huge favor and and convert your present 6V starter to 12V. It's easy to do.
Here's how it's done.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...rt+starter+12v

51504bat · 07-19-2023, 08:26 AM

When I needed a new 12 volt starter for my 8ba most all the ones I found came with the new enclosed Bendix which is a PITA to install in an 8ba. Mac Vanpelt had one with an original made in USA Bendix. Joe's Antique Auto, who is my go to source for parts for my '39 p/u only listed a 12 volt starter with an enclosed Bendix. But after calling him he sold me an original Bendix for the starter and the starter without the new style Bendix. That was several years ago and the starter still works perfectly.

Pete · 07-19-2023, 06:22 PM

I use these if the car does not have to appear stock.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13364905689...Bk9SR57BmoeuYg

T Scott · 07-19-2023, 08:20 PM

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I'm with Pete. Gear reduction starters are great performers. I have one on my Model A and my 34.

vincent · 07-20-2023, 09:20 AM

Hello Pete, thanks for the suggestion.Maybe I should go this route.
There are two types available, one specially for the french flathead but probably only neccessary if the french pan is used. My french engine with french flywheel and 81A/59AB pan works with the original Ford starter. Now I need to find a source in EU for this Powermax 9507 starter.

07-19-2023, 04:59 AM	#1
vincent Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 204	new starter Hello folks while sorting out my old genuine starter from the 34 Ford I found the Bendix spring is broken. As the starter is 6V and the car now runs 12V I thought about an upgrade and found this: https://www.mymromarts.com/new-12-vo...pO4yLWEfuZ2AQY Now this starter is cheap and if it fits the 34, I would not need to have all the work done to the old one. Can you verify that this starter would fit my 34? Thanks! Harty Edit: just found out that my 34 starter has got 10 teeth, this unit only has 9 so would not work....

07-19-2023, 06:44 AM	#2
fortyonerag Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 541	Re: new starter You'll hear folks say that the 12V conversion is hard on the Bendix because the starter spins faster. There might be something to this as I did in fact break a Bendix when I converted to 12V! I wound up installing a different starter drive head as I read they didn't break: https://cgfordparts.com/starter-driv...ml#description They are a bit fiddly to install (you need to compress them to fit) and have a 'rattly' sound, but so far so good.

07-19-2023, 08:16 AM	#3
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,950	Re: new starter vincent: Those "new drive" starters don't compare to the quality of the original style Bendix. Do yourself a huge favor and and convert your present 6V starter to 12V. It's easy to do. Here's how it's done. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...rt+starter+12v

07-19-2023, 08:26 AM	#4
51504bat Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: SoCal-Redlands Posts: 3,024	Re: new starter When I needed a new 12 volt starter for my 8ba most all the ones I found came with the new enclosed Bendix which is a PITA to install in an 8ba. Mac Vanpelt had one with an original made in USA Bendix. Joe's Antique Auto, who is my go to source for parts for my '39 p/u only listed a 12 volt starter with an enclosed Bendix. But after calling him he sold me an original Bendix for the starter and the starter without the new style Bendix. That was several years ago and the starter still works perfectly. __________________ Making the simple complicated for over 30 years.

07-19-2023, 06:22 PM	#5
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,409	Re: new starter I use these if the car does not have to appear stock. https://www.ebay.com/itm/13364905689...Bk9SR57BmoeuYg

07-19-2023, 08:20 PM	#6
T Scott Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Boothbay, Maine Posts: 279	Re: new starter Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I'm with Pete. Gear reduction starters are great performers. I have one on my Model A and my 34.

07-20-2023, 09:20 AM	#7
vincent Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 204	Re: new starter Hello Pete, thanks for the suggestion.Maybe I should go this route. There are two types available, one specially for the french flathead but probably only neccessary if the french pan is used. My french engine with french flywheel and 81A/59AB pan works with the original Ford starter. Now I need to find a source in EU for this Powermax 9507 starter.