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01-30-2020, 03:04 PM | #1 |
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6 volt/12 volt jump box
Looking for suggestions for a "reasonably" priced portable jump starter box. I can find boo-koo 12 volt ones but I have electronic ignition. Any help/source/idea appreciated.
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Re: 6 volt/12 volt jump box
Perhaps i missed something but, what voltage is your ignition 6 V or 12V?
Check these out. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=6v+and+12...l_481jv9wtar_b |
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Re: 6 volt/12 volt jump box
Hi Paul, It's probably not worth reading all this https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...3179&showall=1 but the short answer is No, I haven't found any 6v Jump Box solutions.
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19fordy: I'm still 6 volts.
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Re: 6 volt/12 volt jump box
I've come to think that carrying the spare Optima is the way to go too, petehoovie. A big consideration is they are nowhere near as messy to be around or handle as a lead-acid. Now that I'm thinking those jump boxes need charge-up way more frequently than an Optima too! Who knows when they stop making them, so I guess I'm ponying up another couple hundred to Amazon soon.
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Here's a 6V jump box. https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...39ba15302vEAsg |
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Y'all do what you want, but you couldn't make me use that "alibaba" site for a million bucks! alibaba is a "far-east" Amazon-like site. How many of you guys want to send your credit card and personal info over to that side of the world on the internet? Just sayin'! DD
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Use the handcrank in tool kit
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Re: 6 volt/12 volt jump box
I know they make voltage reduces for people that have gone to 12 volt but kept the 6 volt gauges, electric motors or radios. Is there a way to use a 12 volt jump pack in conjunction with a voltage reducer?
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I had a '48 Seagrave pumper with the Pierce-Arrow derived 468" V12 that I could start with a crank. I won a lot of beers betting guys that I could. That was 20 years ago, though.
I have found that the more cylinders an engine has, the easier it is to start manually. Think about it, 180 degrees of rotation on the crank will get you one firing impulse on a 4 cylinder engine (if you get it properly positioned on the compression stroke). On a 12 cylinder, 180 degrees on the crank will get you 3 impulses. The easiest starting snowmobile I ever had was a 4 cylinder, 2 cycle Yamaha. One good pull would get 8-12 impulses. Last edited by tubman; 01-30-2020 at 11:09 PM. |
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At the time I was about 12 or 13 years old. (and I did manage to start it)
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We all know that a decent running flathead is easy to start with a starter. Well, it is easy to start with a hand crank, too. Long ago, I had a 36 with a bad battery. I also had no money, but I did have a crank. I started it many times with the crank, sometimes in a cold Kansas winter. Really, a hand crank will work quite well.
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Re: 6 volt/12 volt jump box
For those of you that remember Old Henry Craig....................He was at my house with his (I believe) '46 Ford and the battery went bad. He jumped it with a 12V Bolt portable jumper to start it. He said "I need to fool the jumper unit to make it think it's 6V". I dont know what he did but it only took a few seconds. Just saying there is a way.
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Whenever I had to use a 12 volt battery to jump start my 6 volt cars I would do so by connecting the ground side to somewhere convenient on the engine block (not the battery) and then momentarily touch the starter side of the solenoid or directly to the starter cable lug on the starter.
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You could build a jumper cable with a solenoid on it and a remote starter button.
That way you can jumpstart from any 12v source available directly to the starter. Using you battery for the ignition (since leadbatteries recover there is usually enough to run ignition after waiting a bit). |
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……...which exposes only the 6v STARTER to 12v, which many of us get away with for years on end anyway. DD |
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Hooked-up the way 51 Merc described passes 12v current ONLY through the starter and to the grounding point. The ONLY place you'll see 12v is the measured differential between the two jumper cables. The radio/lights are essentially in a completely different circuit. The key here is hooking-up to the STARTER side of the solenoid. Same difference as connecting one cable to starter lug, and the other cable to the starter case. You will NOT see 12v anywhere else in the system. DD
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I knew you knew better. Sometimes, that second cup of coffee really helps. DD |
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Y'all ever thought about the everyday 6v/12v conflict that occurred umpteen times a day way back when? Neighbor's '49 Ford battery (6v) is too weak to crank the old flathead over. Since SHE is so good looking (and a really NICE person, too), I decide to give her a push with my new '55 Chevy (12v). When both bumpers line-up and touch, we now have a COMMON ground between 6v POS ground system and a 12V NEG ground system. Even with this common ground, the fact remains that electrically, you have two separate circuits that have no detrimental effect on each other. DD
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Re: 6 volt/12 volt jump box
Thanks for the help/advice. Gave up on the idea and picked up a 6v/12v charger/maintainer at AutoZone today (Schumaker).
Thanks again. Paul in CT |
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Gave up on the original plan. I picked up a 6v/12v battery charger/maintainer at AutoZone today (Schumaker).
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Pertronix.
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