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Old 10-05-2021, 10:10 AM   #1
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Hello,

my name is Alex and I live in Switzerland. I just acquired a 1936 Tudor Sedan and I am collecting Information about my new toy. I will attach some pictures of the car for you to enjoy.

My first question is regarding the temp gauge. it has two red lines and the area in between is labeled as „normal“. Now we were stuck in traffic once and the temperature got up all the way to the upper red line. luckily at the same time traffic cleared and we could drive on and get the temperature down again.

So my question is: What is the temperature when the fluid is at the upper red line? is that 212F?











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Old 10-05-2021, 10:18 AM   #2
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Welcome to FordBarn.Nice nice '36.Interesting Euro KM speedometer. In the middle of the red marks is 160 degrees F,so at the top its getting close to 212. Looks like the red in the gauge tube has faded away. The gauge can be repaired or look for a NOS gauge although they are difficult to find.
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Old 10-05-2021, 10:31 AM   #3
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Boy, that car looks nice! I had a '36 "flatback" tudor in 1959 (mine was "Cordoba Tan) so I have a soft spot in my heart for them.
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Old 10-05-2021, 07:25 PM   #4
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Alex, my temp gauge has 3 lines with the normal going up to 3rd line at the top. The 2nd and 3rd line are fairly close together. My temp has been to the top line before with no steam or water coming out. In terms of temp of these 3 lines, I have never checked. My car is a standard and the combo temp/ammeter gauge I put in later. Terry
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Nice car and nice photos!
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Old 10-06-2021, 03:42 AM   #6
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Thank you all for the compliments and valuable info.

A faded liquid would explain why the temp gauge is hard to read, and I‘m glad the upper limit of the gauge does not mean instant mayhem. For now I can live with the existing gauge I guess.

The car was restored a few years ago and is highly original from what I can tell. It has been completely reliable so far. I am very happy with it.
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Old 10-06-2021, 04:14 AM   #7
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Really nice '36 with (12 volt? non original alternator)
You can check temp. using a non-contact infrared thermometer to see if readings reflect what you are seeing on installed Gauge.

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Old 10-06-2021, 04:21 AM   #8
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Having a “warm”- running 36 as well, I’ve recently tried adding a product called “Water Wetter” suggested by some on this board. It does appear to make a difference, reducing time spent at / slightly above the high end of the normal range. Will be checking temps with an infrared gun to see actual temperature. Like many, I will send water pumps out to “Skip” Haney for rebuild if still (actually) running too warm.

Yours is a very handsome car !
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Old 10-07-2021, 12:40 AM   #9
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Really nice '36 with (12 volt? non original alternator)
You can check temp. using a non-contact infrared thermometer to see if readings reflect what you are seeing on installed Gauge.

Interestingly the car is still 6 V. I don’t know how he did it but the previous owner managed to find a 6V alternator. I didn’t even know they existed. In any event I could go back to the generator any time (it came with the car) but since we have mandatory headlight use 24/7 it would probably not work in terms of max. current.

Good point about the IR thermometer. I need one of those.
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Old 10-07-2021, 06:43 AM   #10
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6 volt alternators are available. The Brillman Company, for one, offers them.

I just checked, and it looks like these guys really have it covered : https://www.qualitypowerauto.com/ite...ive-Ground.htm. They also have brackets, pulleys (3/8" and 5/8") and such.

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Old 10-08-2021, 11:41 AM   #11
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Hi Alex. That’s a nice 36. It appears to be a new reproduction temperature gauge. The originals that are still working are hard to find these days.
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Again, thank you all for the compliments!

It could very well be a reproduction gauge since the car was fully restored a few years ago.
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Old 10-08-2021, 10:48 PM   #13
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Alex, very nice car. Congratulations. Also I might add, that is the way to ask a question. Thank you for that.


If you have a chance to pickup a infrared gun for reading heat that might be good. Gauges can be interesting. Maybe when it's showing high temperature pull off the road and check the block to make sure the temperature on the gauge is the actual temperature. Good to know what condition your condition is in. Or don't trust the gauges.



Again a very nice vehicle!!!

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Thank you Tinker! Just trying to be nice, that’s what my parents taught me :-)

I see there is a comment unanswered from deuce lover regarding the speedo.

it is in fact not a km speedo, someone - likely a professional - recreated the face with a km reading and put it on the mph speedo. odo and trip meter are still reading in miles.

previous owner had to go through that trouble because a km speedo is mandatory here.
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Alex, very nice car. Congratulations. Also I might add, that is the way to ask a question. Thank you for that.


If you have a chance to pickup a infrared gun for reading heat that might be good. Gauges can be interesting. Maybe when it's showing high temperature pull off the road and check the block to make sure the temperature on the gauge is the actual temperature. Good to know what condition your condition is in. Or don't trust the gauges.



Again a very nice vehicle!!!

that‘s the plan!!
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Old 10-09-2021, 05:14 AM   #16
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Hi, welcome to the barn!
very nice car. i've got my thermometer on aliexpress.
a link below:
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/40010...87693729%22%7D
my 37 was "warm" too so i took apart my radiator and put it in radiator shop.
He cleaned it and now, even in summer the temp never go over 170°F!
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Old 10-09-2021, 05:16 AM   #17
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be carefull when you use the thermometer you must stop the engine because the hight tension of spark plug affect the reading.
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Old 10-13-2021, 11:08 AM   #18
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Hi Alex
my name is Sasha, I live in Switzerland too and also own a 1936 Tudor Sedan. If you like to have an knowledge exchange contact me: 079 215 51 12
rgds from beautiful Wallis
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Old 10-14-2021, 09:36 AM   #19
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I like dual gauges and added to the 21 stud by using the water pump with gauge provision on both sides. I had also drilled a hole in a housing and brazed in the adapter bushing for the right side. One is a truck and gauge was added and mounted under the dash. I have head mounted pump housings if you want to try to add this
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Welcome to the barn, great looking ‘36.
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Thank you all again for the compliments and valuable information!! I found out I already have an IR thermometer gun and will check temps on the next drive.
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