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02-07-2020, 12:07 PM | #1 |
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1931 Model A Serial Number
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I JUST purchased my first Model A & receved it yesterday, I am so excited! I bought it out of Florida and since I was told it had a clear title, I was not too concerned, that is, until i saw the title. I am concerned about the serial number. There are only 4 digits. The serial number tag on the fire wall is painted over. The engine block vin location is blank & both frame rails are covered by fiberglass fenders (On a steel body) & they obviously wont be visible, until I remove the fenders. Is it the end of the world as I know it? Thank you in advance, Chris Kennedy |
02-07-2020, 12:29 PM | #2 |
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Re: 1931 Model A Serial Number
If the title says so your good!
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02-07-2020, 01:11 PM | #3 |
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Re: 1931 Model A Serial Number
Yes you are officially good, now you only have to figure the real number for your own information. Sounds like you will have to pull the body, the number is near the rear motor mount on the top outside of the frame. The car could be a mixture of parts from various cars but most of it probably belongs on that frame. You are lucky that you don't have to mess with getting a title!
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02-07-2020, 01:38 PM | #4 |
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Re: 1931 Model A Serial Number
Look on the door jambs or any other visible surface on the body/frame as Maryland may have attached their own number (2529) which is what your title states is the Vin #,
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02-07-2020, 01:51 PM | #5 | |
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Right now it sounds like you have a worthless piece of paper (EBAY?) and a vehicle you can't prove is yours. Good Luck Charlie Stephens Last edited by Charlie Stephens; 02-07-2020 at 02:24 PM. |
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02-07-2020, 02:05 PM | #6 |
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02-07-2020, 03:53 PM | #7 |
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Re: 1931 Model A Serial Number
I would just go to motor vehicle and try to register it,don't volunteer any info,the worst that could happen is it would be rejected,then the fun starts!
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02-07-2020, 04:03 PM | #8 |
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I agree with Charlie. I would be sure that number was on the car somewhere.
What do you do if the car is destroyed and the insurance says were it the number that is on the paper work? Bob |
02-07-2020, 04:15 PM | #9 |
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I can tell you from experience, that to transfer an out of state title to an Ohio title they require a VIN Verification be done by a qualified individual (Law officer, car dealer). You can download a form from the DMV web site.
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02-07-2020, 04:19 PM | #10 |
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Oregon too for out of state transfers of title, but we have to take the car to the DMV. In state no problem just have all the paper work and stand in line at the DMV.
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02-07-2020, 04:30 PM | #11 | |
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02-07-2020, 04:56 PM | #12 |
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I'm in Tennessee and have a late model 1931 indented firewall. My vin on the title matched the motor vin as well as the frame vin but the title said it was a 1932. Which obviously it isn't. The state's response about correcting the title? If it says it's a 1932 then it's a 1932. So my title to this day says 1932. My point is these cars are getting close to 100 years old. Paperwork mishaps are bound to happen. No it's not the end of the world. You CAN see the vin on the frame without removing the body. I did it on mine. It's a complete pain and had to contort my body to get my head where I could see but I saw it.
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02-07-2020, 05:25 PM | #13 |
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Re: 1931 Model A Serial Number
I've been through this before....
In my case, the VIN on the title was assigned by the DMV in accordance with the Highway Patrol. This came as a result of building/restoring my Model A from an assortment of body/running gear/all kinds of parts. When it was assembled and almost complete, I contacted the Highway Patrol to drop by and inspect the car. I showed all my receipts and the officer certified the car to be legitimate insofar as it not being illegal/stolen/etc. There's a legal word for this activity but I've long forgotten what it is. Anyway, I took the HP paper/certificate to my DMV where they provided a title, registration/license. When we moved here (from another state) I simply took the former state's paperwork to the local DMV, and they promptly issued an instate title, registration, license, etc, etc. Long story short, if you possess a valid title then you are good to go. Last but not least, if you cannot find your title number somewhere that's easy to find then proceed to stamp it in. You're through. |
02-07-2020, 05:42 PM | #14 |
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Texas requires either visual verification of the number on the engine pad by the coolant inlet or a pencil rubbing of the frame number under the left front corner of the body. The TXDOT offices have a book that tells them where the number is supposed to be for most cars and it covers a lot of different makes from the roaring 20s & dirty 30s. The last one I had verified was by a state certified inspection station so the DOT doesn't have to do it here. I had to lift the body on my 29 Sport Coupe to find the number there. My engine has later characteristics than early to mid 1929 but there is no number stamped on the normal location.
Every state is different but most of them have access to registration rules and instructions available to the public on the internet. Last edited by rotorwrench; 02-09-2020 at 10:22 AM. |
02-07-2020, 05:48 PM | #15 |
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I HAVE A FRIEND IN CHILLICOTHE OH, IF ANYONE NEEDS AN INSPECTION. HE IS IN THE HOBBY............
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02-07-2020, 06:14 PM | #16 |
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I will add my 2-cents. Being a 4 number on the Title I would believe that DMV assigned that number to the car and it should be somewhere on the vehicle. That is my guess. Hugh
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02-07-2020, 07:26 PM | #17 | |
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02-07-2020, 08:50 PM | #18 |
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You can see there were Model A's produced in 1932 in the US and Canada
at this MAFCA link. https://mafca.com/data_aplants.html Also from MAFCA site."The Ford Model A production began in October 1927 and continued through March 1932." I have a late 1931 Model AA mail truck with a March 1932 frame number. |
02-08-2020, 08:25 AM | #19 |
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Here is how my title reads. I believe the vin comes back as a late 1930. Also I included a picture of the gentleman I got the car from and one of the last cars in his collection. Apparently there were two restored Model Ts that were behind the cars pictured that had just recently been shipped to Ireland and in the other garage were other cars. When he showed me the title I wasn't happy at all. I really liked the car and he assured me this was a rare Model A titled as a 1932. So without further ado I bought her and brought her home.
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02-08-2020, 12:01 PM | #20 |
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Re: 1931 Model A Serial Number
That # you show 4226614 was stamped & built on "12/16/30'' The next question to you is, how did that early of an engine # get in a May 1931 or later built car ??
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