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Lawson Cox · 02-18-2022, 09:49 AM

Charlie NY (Charlie Schwendler) is working with me on the display engine. He is building an 81 carburetor for the project. It will be for display only from non functionable parts, but will look correct. He needs a bowl (Center section). Someone out there has one that is usable for our purposes. Is that person you, or do you know who would have this part. Thanks for any help or leads. Lawson

Kurt in NJ · 02-18-2022, 10:25 AM

does it have to be good enough to make it run?

Lawson Cox · 02-18-2022, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt in NJ

does it have to be good enough to make it run?

No, it will not be a running engine, only a display in the Early V8 Ford museum.

bobH · 02-18-2022, 11:43 AM

seems like max might be one to ask ??

Lawson Cox · 02-18-2022, 12:02 PM

Charlie has checked with Max and Ken CT already. We're going public for help.

My direct email is [email protected]

deuce lover · 02-18-2022, 12:10 PM

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Lawson Cox · 02-18-2022, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by deuce lover

Check your email

Done. I have seen that one listed on eBay. I have contacted Charlie NY.

scicala · 02-18-2022, 06:29 PM

I have a Holley Model 92 V8 60 carb (81 venturi), but I don't suppose that will do you any good if you need the earlier Stromberg.

Also, there is a guy on Facebook (halabout) that sells Stromberg stuff.

Sal

Lawson Cox · 02-18-2022, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by scicala

I have a Holley Model 92 V8 60 carb (81 venturi), but I don't suppose that will do you any good if you need the earlier Stromberg.

Also, there is a guy on Facebook (halabout) that sells Stromberg stuff.

Sal

Yeah, I'm looking for the Stromberg. I'll try halabout.

Charlie ny · 02-19-2022, 06:53 AM

I'll trade a no issue ready to use 97 bowl...big or small logo....for a compromised

unusable BUT PRETTY ON THE EXTERIOR Stromberg 81 bowl. Stripped out threads,
blown out power valve well, busted J tubes will work no problem

Charlie ny
[email protected]

Lawson Cox · 02-19-2022, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie ny

I'll trade a no issue ready to use 97 bowl...big or small logo....for a compromised

unusable BUT PRETTY ON THE EXTERIOR Stromberg 81 bowl. Stripped out threads,
blown out power valve well, busted J tubes will work no problem

Charlie ny
[email protected]

AWESOME, Charlie.

uncle max · 02-19-2022, 07:31 PM

Is the little 60 an early or late model?
If it's early, the correct bowl would be marked "52/81".
If it's later you'd need the bold "81".
Either way, I just found one of each in the bottom of the barrel; bowls only.
Let me know.

Lawson Cox · 02-19-2022, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle max

Is the little 60 an early or late model?
If it's early, the correct bowl would be marked "52/81".
If it's later you'd need the bold "81".
Either way, I just found one of each in the bottom of the barrel; bowls only.
Let me know.

Uncle Max. Check your private messages. Thanks for reaching out to me. The engine, by the way, is a 1939 model.

scicala · 02-21-2022, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

Uncle Max. Check your private messages. Thanks for reaching out to me. The engine, by the way, is a 1939 model.

I'm no expert on the details, but wasn't '39 the first year the V8 60 used the Holley 92 (81 venturi) ? The 85 HP V8's too ?

Sal

Lawson Cox · 02-21-2022, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scicala

I'm no expert on the details, but wasn't '39 the first year the V8 60 used the Holley 92 (81 venturi) ? The 85 HP V8's too ?

Sal

I don't have the faintest.

tubman · 02-21-2022, 12:26 PM

That's my understanding as well. Actually, I think they started the change in 1938 on the 85's; the 60's are a mystery to me.

Lawson Cox · 02-21-2022, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tubman

That's my understanding as well. Actually, I think they started the change in 1938 on the 85's; the 60's are a mystery to me.

Me too. I'm learning a lot as I go. LOL

scicala · 02-21-2022, 05:52 PM

I've seen more than one carburetor listing that says '39 was all Holley 94 for the 221 85 HP engines and all Holley 92 (81 venturi) for the 60 HP engines. Also the Mercury 239's.

Sal

bobH · 02-21-2022, 08:16 PM

Just for grins and giggles... Info in the 35-46 Motor's Manual says...
Ford 1939-40 (60) Holley AA-7/8 7/8 venturi
I have no idea of accuracy. I would go with whatever Max says.
BTW, 7/8 = .875.... So, if .81 is what it is, was that also referred to as 7/8 by Holley???

1952henry · 02-21-2022, 08:34 PM

Right or wrong, my understanding was Chandler Groves in late 38, which became the Holley "94" in 39. A 91-99 carb number translates into 1939 221 -239

02-18-2022, 09:49 AM	#1
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine Charlie NY (Charlie Schwendler) is working with me on the display engine. He is building an 81 carburetor for the project. It will be for display only from non functionable parts, but will look correct. He needs a bowl (Center section). Someone out there has one that is usable for our purposes. Is that person you, or do you know who would have this part. Thanks for any help or leads. Lawson __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

02-18-2022, 10:25 AM	#2
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine does it have to be good enough to make it run?

02-18-2022, 11:43 AM	#4
bobH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: so cal, placerville, vegas Posts: 1,394	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine seems like max might be one to ask ??

02-18-2022, 12:02 PM	#5
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine Charlie has checked with Max and Ken CT already. We're going public for help. My direct email is [email protected] __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

02-18-2022, 12:10 PM	#6
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,307	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Check your email

02-18-2022, 06:29 PM	#8
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine I have a Holley Model 92 V8 60 carb (81 venturi), but I don't suppose that will do you any good if you need the earlier Stromberg. Also, there is a guy on Facebook (halabout) that sells Stromberg stuff. Sal

02-19-2022, 06:53 AM	#10
Charlie ny BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,019	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine I'll trade a no issue ready to use 97 bowl...big or small logo....for a compromised unusable BUT PRETTY ON THE EXTERIOR Stromberg 81 bowl. Stripped out threads, blown out power valve well, busted J tubes will work no problem Charlie ny [email protected]

02-19-2022, 07:31 PM	#12
uncle max Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC Utah Posts: 798	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine Is the little 60 an early or late model? If it's early, the correct bowl would be marked "52/81". If it's later you'd need the bold "81". Either way, I just found one of each in the bottom of the barrel; bowls only. Let me know. __________________ RIP Tyler... My Son, Helper & Best Friend. Feb '78 to Father's Day '10. www.97-express.com ~ [email protected]

02-21-2022, 12:26 PM	#16
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,320	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine That's my understanding as well. Actually, I think they started the change in 1938 on the 85's; the 60's are a mystery to me.

02-21-2022, 05:52 PM	#18
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine I've seen more than one carburetor listing that says '39 was all Holley 94 for the 221 85 HP engines and all Holley 92 (81 venturi) for the 60 HP engines. Also the Mercury 239's. Sal

02-21-2022, 08:16 PM	#19
bobH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: so cal, placerville, vegas Posts: 1,394	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine Just for grins and giggles... Info in the 35-46 Motor's Manual says... Ford 1939-40 (60) Holley AA-7/8 7/8 venturi I have no idea of accuracy. I would go with whatever Max says. BTW, 7/8 = .875.... So, if .81 is what it is, was that also referred to as 7/8 by Holley???

02-21-2022, 08:34 PM	#20
1952henry Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,621	Re: Need Stromberg 81 Bowl for display engine Right or wrong, my understanding was Chandler Groves in late 38, which became the Holley "94" in 39. A 91-99 carb number translates into 1939 221 -239 __________________ I dig coal, which provides motivation for EVs.