A little better... Engine wise

[mshmodela]

Took my wife and car to a drive up, last Friday, she said you need to clean up Ms. Daisy a bit She said, it was like taking a kid to the county fair with a dirty face and shirt.... So I got the grease off her and touched up the engine paint...



Not sure if I like the black on the Exhaust manifold, but the paint I got from Home Depot, it's for gas grills 1100F spec'ed. figure better than rust.

[Tom Endy]

The engine looks very good, face washed and a clean shirt. However it is wearing shoes without socks. You are missing the splash pans. They are not expensive, the ones from Bratton's are powder coated (prevents gas dripping from the carburetor from removing the paint). They are a pain to install, usually requires two people. Beside the cosmetic, it adds to engine cooling, so the legend goes.

Tom Endy

[Fred K-OR]

"He who casts the first stone-----"

[kp]

Dresssed up purty good !

[mshmodela]

Funny you mention engine pans, at the drive up event, (Mostly Rods but 20% old as is cars) there was a 1930, Model A which had engine pans... I've never seen them in person before... They look nice but I wonder if they hold more heat in?

[Mitch//pa]

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actually think of it as a tunnel the fan blows the air down the sides of the motor and trans keeping things cooler. the pans act as the bottom or floor of the tunnel. much of the air exits out the hood louvers.
your engine looks good but i don't remember seeing the before pics
whats up with the fuel shutoff in the carb line?

[mshmodela]

Originally Posted by Mitch//pa

actually think of it as a tunnel the fan blows the air down the sides of the motor and trans keeping things cooler. the pans act as the bottom or floor of the tunnel. much of the air exits out the hood louvers.
your engine looks good but i don't remember seeing the before pics
whats up with the fuel shutoff in the carb line?

Mitch,

My guess is since this is a late 31' with an indented firewall the guy who owned the car or the owner before him (car sat for 5 years.) could not find a Zenith side bowl carburetor so... I'm guessing he had to cut the fuel line and just stuck in an extra fuel valve to mate the two sections... Or valve on the firewall is not working so they just placed a second, in series.

At some point, I'll find the proper side bowl carb and remove the extra valve.

[d.]

the engine pans actually INCREASE cooling by directing air flow across the motor and out the hood louvers instead of just blowing everywhere. As a bonus they also keep mud splashes and water from the road from splashing up into the engine bay.
Henry didn't just hang stuff on a car for no reason...it was all tested and thought out before it went into production.

[machine girl]

back in the day they were for mud dust and dirt, would like to see proof of any increase in cooling? ( need a new roof on the house the first roof guy said black roofing will not make the house any hotter!) sometimes we just need to re think things.)

[mshmodela]

Well, well, appears I've got my Father's day gift item. Engine pans

Many thanks for all the nice comments...

[Mitch//pa]

Originally Posted by mshmodela

Well, well, appears I've got my Father's day gift item. Engine pans

Many thanks for all the nice comments...

good move now your Kool

[George Miller]

I also think they were for the muddy roads of the day. I think they run cooler with out them. They have not used them for many years.

[machine girl]

mrshmodela, ask for a Snyder HC head or other neat model A stuff ! not those pans there a pain to put on and take off.

[180 a]

The engine pans also help with grounding the engine to the frame

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by machine girl

back in the day they were for mud dust and dirt, would like to see proof of any increase in cooling? ( need a new roof on the house the first roof guy said black roofing will not make the house any hotter!) sometimes we just need to re think things.)

Back in the 70's when I had a pole barn built to store my cars, I told the builder that I was concerned with condensation dripping on my cars. He said that if I went with colored tin instead of galvanized I wouldn't have condensation. That's when I should have told him he just lost the job and I should have gone with someone that knew the score.

BTW, my house has white shingles to keep the heat away, but they are turning black from the mold (except around the galvanized vents). I guess that's why all the neighbors have black roofs.

[Bob Bidonde]

The positives for the engine pans are:
1. They direct cooling air flow to the transmission;
2. They provide an electrical ground path to the chassis;
3. They neaten the appearance of the engine compartment.

The negatives are:
4. The pans are prone to cracking at their attachment fastener tabs and at their forward corners. When the pans crack while you are driving, the resulting noise can be frightening to your spouse;
5. They direct warm air at the firewall and floorboards and it leaks into the passenger compartment which is undesirable in the summer;
6. Makes draining the coolant more difficult because there is less ground clearance for a bucket at the back of the left side pan;
7. The right side pan usually needs trimming to adequately clear the exhaust pipe;
8. Reproduction pans mimic the latest Model "A" design, so for the purest they are incorrect for 1928 - 1930;
9. Gasoline dripping from the carburetor fails the paint on the right side pan.
10. Gasoline leakage from the carburetor is directed by the right side pan to the exhaust.