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Oldgearz · 08-09-2021, 03:26 PM

I have what looks like the original style front motor mount. I have more vibration than I like, so I ordered a rebuild kit. The springs in the kit are much smaller, punier looking than what is now on the car. Question is, where did my current beefier springs come from? Original or some other after-market that is currently not in the supplier's kits?

alexiskai · 08-09-2021, 03:36 PM

Are your springs connected together? There was a popular kit often called the beehive mount, because the springs bulged in the center like a beehive.

Bob C · 08-09-2021, 05:21 PM

If it looks like this it is after market and usually makes the front of the engine
sit to high.

Oldgearz · 08-09-2021, 06:25 PM

The springs look like the Bob C picture, but I can't see or feel a connection between the too. It may be down under the center mounting bolt. The engine does sit a little high in front. I can't get an original style crank rod to line up. There seems to be a rubber grommet/bushing inside the springs. What should I replace this with if I decide to go that way?

alexiskai · 08-09-2021, 08:38 PM

Most folks with the beehive springs just go back to bone stock and usually report improvement.

gdmn852 · 08-10-2021, 10:36 AM

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This is what the replacement original type springs looks like,you may also need the bushing

Oldgearz · 08-10-2021, 10:51 AM

Bushing? Are you talking about what they call the "Front Engine Support Busing ?

katy · 08-10-2021, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexiskai

Most folks with the beehive springs just go back to bone stock and usually report improvement.

That's what I did. Those rubbers inside the beehive springs had turned as hard as concrete.

gdmn852 · 08-10-2021, 11:31 AM

Yes, part number A 6034 front support Bushing.Happen to be changing mine right now.It fits from bottom of cross member held in by small spring and nut .

alexiskai · 08-10-2021, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldgearz

Bushing? Are you talking about what they call the "Front Engine Support Busing ?

The front engine support bushing is the brass washer-shaped part pictured on the right of gdmn852's photo. It's commonly said that Ford discontinued use of the washer around Jan. '29 because it wasn't allowing the engine to move and flex the way it needed to – but I'm not sure where the documentation of this change is. I've only seen it referred to indirectly. It's also not clear how much the removal of this part had to do with the quality of '20s roads, in which case we might not need to remove it.

Ray in La Mesa · 08-11-2021, 07:46 AM

I have the repro springs with the rubber plugs in the springs, hard as a rock. I took a punch & knocked them out, got lucky, now the engine sits perfect.

gdmn852 · 08-11-2021, 10:55 AM

Hello again, on the car I am working on the bushing must have been missing for awhile,the yoke bolt and cross member hole both show wear. The hardest part to do this job is to keep the springs where they belong and getting lower spring up to get nut started on it,also make the hand crank lines up with crank shaft.

08-09-2021, 03:26 PM	#1
Oldgearz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Sagle, Idaho Posts: 359	Front Motor Mount Springs I have what looks like the original style front motor mount. I have more vibration than I like, so I ordered a rebuild kit. The springs in the kit are much smaller, punier looking than what is now on the car. Question is, where did my current beefier springs come from? Original or some other after-market that is currently not in the supplier's kits?

08-09-2021, 03:36 PM	#2
alexiskai Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Mebane NC Posts: 2,356	Re: Front Motor Mount Springs Are your springs connected together? There was a popular kit often called the beehive mount, because the springs bulged in the center like a beehive.

08-09-2021, 06:25 PM	#4
Oldgearz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Sagle, Idaho Posts: 359	Re: Front Motor Mount Springs The springs look like the Bob C picture, but I can't see or feel a connection between the too. It may be down under the center mounting bolt. The engine does sit a little high in front. I can't get an original style crank rod to line up. There seems to be a rubber grommet/bushing inside the springs. What should I replace this with if I decide to go that way?

08-09-2021, 08:38 PM	#5
alexiskai Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Mebane NC Posts: 2,356	Re: Front Motor Mount Springs Most folks with the beehive springs just go back to bone stock and usually report improvement.

08-10-2021, 10:51 AM	#7
Oldgearz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Sagle, Idaho Posts: 359	Re: Front Motor Mount Springs Bushing? Are you talking about what they call the "Front Engine Support Busing ?

08-10-2021, 11:31 AM	#9
gdmn852 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 689	Re: Front Motor Mount Springs Yes, part number A 6034 front support Bushing.Happen to be changing mine right now.It fits from bottom of cross member held in by small spring and nut .

08-11-2021, 07:46 AM	#11
Ray in La Mesa Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: La Mesa Ca Posts: 1,166	Re: Front Motor Mount Springs I have the repro springs with the rubber plugs in the springs, hard as a rock. I took a punch & knocked them out, got lucky, now the engine sits perfect.

08-11-2021, 10:55 AM	#12
gdmn852 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 689	Re: Front Motor Mount Springs Hello again, on the car I am working on the bushing must have been missing for awhile,the yoke bolt and cross member hole both show wear. The hardest part to do this job is to keep the springs where they belong and getting lower spring up to get nut started on it,also make the hand crank lines up with crank shaft.