Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-15-2021, 11:29 PM   #1
jimmyz80
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 21
Question '31 Battery Mount Confusion

My '31 coupe that I inherited from my dad has always had a battery hold down shaped like a rectangle that encircles the top of the battery, and then is held down by the two studs/nuts on opposite corners. This setup always seemed shaky to me for two reasons:

1. Since the hold down frame is only "held down" at two corners, it's easy for it to flex and potentially rise up to short out the forward-facing negative battery connector. I've always just kept a piece of rubber between the battery cable and the hold down to prevent this, but I'd like to figure out something more proper.

2. The threads on the studs don't seem long enough to properly hold down the battery. It has a stack of about 6 washers on each corner in order for the hold down nut to properly put some pressure on the hold down frame.

The battery is a Group 1 battery, which I thought was supposed to be the correct dimensions, so I'm puzzled why the hold down doesn't seem to hold it down properly without the hacks I mentioned above.

I tried ordering a set of the hold down "corner clamps" which I believe are the original design but I may be mistaken, in hopes that they would make everything fit better. No such luck... Again the studs don't have long enough threads, and it seems like even if they did, the corner clamps would end up tilted so much that they wouldn't secure the battery.

Is this battery box perhaps something incorrect that my dad installed long ago? I bought a set of new studs to see if I could correct things that way, but the studs on this battery box don't appear to be removable. They are pressed in.

Any suggestions to get things back to how they should be, and also to hold the battery firmly with no risk of a short? Thanks!!!

I've attached a few photos of the battery box corners, as well as a demo of how the corner clamps would end up tilted when tightened down....if there were enough threads.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2908.jpg (66.5 KB, 86 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2909.jpg (90.1 KB, 82 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2910.jpg (80.6 KB, 85 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2913.jpg (72.0 KB, 81 views)
jimmyz80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2021, 11:49 PM   #2
CarlG
Senior Member
 
CarlG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,115
Default Re: '31 Battery Mount Confusion

Group 1 battery is only the closest to the original Ford battery that is made today. The dimensions are not exactly the same.
__________________
Alaskan A's
Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska
Model A Ford Club of America
Model A Restorers Club
Antique Automobile Club of America
Mullins Owner's Club
CarlG is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 08-16-2021, 09:26 AM   #3
Badpuppy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Guthrie, OK
Posts: 1,144
Default Re: '31 Battery Mount Confusion

Group 1 is shorter, which explains the washers. The early corner clips were changed to the surrounding cap because of the tendency to slip off. What you have is correct for 1931, except for the battery itself.
Badpuppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2021, 09:54 AM   #4
Gary WA
Senior Member
 
Gary WA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Clinton,WA/Whidbey Island
Posts: 4,101
Default Re: '31 Battery Mount Confusion

If not looking for points then get a nice 1/4" +- rubber mat for under battery to raise up a bit.
__________________
www.whidbeymodelaclub.com
Gary WA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2021, 03:58 PM   #5
jimmyz80
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 21
Default Re: '31 Battery Mount Confusion

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
I guess another alternative would be to just thread the studs down another 1/4" or so? Also with the corner brackets, were they just slipped onto the stud and then tightened with a nut from above? Or did they have a backing nut installed under them, to help keep them from tilting too much?
jimmyz80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:01 AM.