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Ice man · 07-24-2010, 07:57 PM

Just got the latest up date from Terry Burtz [email protected] He has the first casting ready and it will be at the MAFCA Vancouver,Canada Show. 5 Mains, Balanced Crank, 2 Rear seals. WOW. Iceman

Model A Man · 07-24-2010, 10:22 PM

It's been a long haul for him. I am so looking forward to when production is up and running. I so want one/two

Mike V. Florida · 07-24-2010, 11:24 PM

For the projected price it might be the end of stock engines for the non-judged car. I think I remember the price for a short block was to be around $3000.00. With the correct boltons we are looking at a 150 Hp 4000 rpm engine that looks as close to dead on stock at possible.

Model A Man · 07-24-2010, 11:59 PM

on a judged car would the judges be able to tell if it was a stock block or a new one from Terry?

29RPU · 07-25-2010, 12:56 AM

Wow, I wonder if that will be a loss for the OD companies! I bet they will have trouble keeping up with demand for awhile...maybe not during these economic times....really cool!

John LaVoy · 07-25-2010, 08:39 AM

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Looking at the casting of the new block I have it is going to be difficult for a judge to tell the new block from an original. I will have the new block on display at the MAFCA meet in my booth at the swap meet.

Thom IV · 07-25-2010, 09:01 AM

What a great improvement it will be for the vehicle. Much safer in traffic and it wll allow the owner much more utility. Much success to him.

BCCHOPIT · 07-25-2010, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice man

Just got the latest up date from Terry Burtz [email protected] He has the first casting ready and it will be at the MAFCA Vancouver,Canada Show. 5 Mains, Balanced Crank, 2 Rear seals. WOW. Iceman

Is there any pics of the block and crank on line anywhere?
thanks Bill

Larry Brumfield · 07-25-2010, 10:02 AM

How much will the total price be once all the guts are added to make a complete SHORT block?

1. crank
2. pistons
3. rods
4. bearings
5. gears
6. cam
7. valves
8. lifters
9. what else?

JoeWay · 07-25-2010, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forever4

Just curious how it will be any safer?

The engine is carryover bore stroke, etc, and will not make a single HP more...

Well--might make a couple more HP. Terry told me in email that "...the opening where the intake manifold mounts is opened up to Model B size (1.50 inch dia)." That should help get more air/fuel mix into the cylinders if a B manifold or modified A manifold is used.

I would think it should be fairly easy to get it to 75-80 HP with the right head/cam/carb, etc. That combined with smoother operation and higher RPM will make it practical to drive at highway speeds, especially with OD or high-ratio gearing.

Just be sure your brakes and steering are up to snuff!! (What the heck does that mean, anyhow--up to snuff?)

Joe

JoeWay · 07-25-2010, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Is there any pics of the block and crank on line anywhere?
thanks Bill

http://www.modelaengine.com/

Joe

JoeWay · 07-25-2010, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Brumfield

How much will the total price be once all the guts are added to make a complete SHORT block?

1. crank
2. pistons
3. rods
4. bearings
5. gears
6. cam
7. valves
8. lifters
9. what else?

Crank, rods and bearings will be included. Maybe another $1100-$1200 with a NEW cam and a GOOD head? I've already started collecting parts.

I think the Burtz engine will increase the demand for good heads, Larry.

Joe

Joe

Larry Brumfield · 07-25-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeWay

I would think it should be fairly easy to get it to 75-80 HP with the right head/cam/carb, etc. That combined with smoother operation and higher RPM will make it practical to drive at highway speeds, especially with OD or high-ratio gearing.

Joe

All of the above is easy to do right now.

Larry B.

Larry Brumfield · 07-25-2010, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeWay

Crank, rods and bearings will be included.

Joe

You get the block plus crank, rods and bearings ..... ALL for 3000 dollars?

Larry B.

BCCHOPIT · 07-25-2010, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeWay

http://www.modelaengine.com/

Joe

thanks Joe but it didn't work

Server not found

Uncle Bob · 07-25-2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeWay

Just be sure your brakes and steering are up to snuff!! (What the heck does that mean, anyhow--up to snuff?)

Joe

Since you asked, from Merriam Webster:
— up to snuff : of sufficient quality : meeting an applicable standard

Rowdy · 07-25-2010, 11:23 AM

I beleive that was the price suggested about 6 years ago. Likely with the economy, time and unexpected expences it will be closer to 5K now. I am sure the meetings with the various people and places involved will push it beyond a reasonable cost. I have over 30 original blocks set back, so not likely I will be buying a new one any time soon, although I get the monthly update and enjoy seeing the progress. Rod

JoeWay · 07-25-2010, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

thanks Joe but it didn't work

Server not found

Must have been a temporary glitch. Works for me right now in IE and FireFox.

Try it again.

Joe

http://www.modelaengine.com/

vinepro · 07-25-2010, 11:24 AM

This will increase the amount of people putting new engines in there cars and trucks, but it will also make a lot of good engines for sale when people use the new Burts engine witch will be good for people who can't get one. This is going to be great.

MCHinson · 07-25-2010, 11:28 AM

Wow, that was an interesting link. I do wonder what the cost will actually turn out to be.

07-24-2010, 07:57 PM	#1
Ice man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Southern Pines, N.Carolina Posts: 210	NEW A Engine Just got the latest up date from Terry Burtz [email protected] He has the first casting ready and it will be at the MAFCA Vancouver,Canada Show. 5 Mains, Balanced Crank, 2 Rear seals. WOW. Iceman

07-24-2010, 10:22 PM	#2
Model A Man Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sarasota Florida Posts: 604	Re: NEW A Engine It's been a long haul for him. I am so looking forward to when production is up and running. I so want one/two

07-24-2010, 11:24 PM	#3
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: NEW A Engine For the projected price it might be the end of stock engines for the non-judged car. I think I remember the price for a short block was to be around $3000.00. With the correct boltons we are looking at a 150 Hp 4000 rpm engine that looks as close to dead on stock at possible. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

07-24-2010, 11:59 PM	#4
Model A Man Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sarasota Florida Posts: 604	Re: NEW A Engine on a judged car would the judges be able to tell if it was a stock block or a new one from Terry?

07-25-2010, 12:56 AM	#5
29RPU Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Visalia, California Posts: 246	Re: NEW A Engine Wow, I wonder if that will be a loss for the OD companies! I bet they will have trouble keeping up with demand for awhile...maybe not during these economic times....really cool!

07-25-2010, 08:39 AM	#6
John LaVoy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rocklin, CA Posts: 1,219	Re: NEW A Engine Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Looking at the casting of the new block I have it is going to be difficult for a judge to tell the new block from an original. I will have the new block on display at the MAFCA meet in my booth at the swap meet.

07-25-2010, 09:01 AM	#7
Thom IV Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Centerville, IA Posts: 136	Re: NEW A Engine What a great improvement it will be for the vehicle. Much safer in traffic and it wll allow the owner much more utility. Much success to him.

07-25-2010, 10:02 AM	#9
Larry Brumfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 351	Re: NEW A Engine How much will the total price be once all the guts are added to make a complete SHORT block? 1. crank 2. pistons 3. rods 4. bearings 5. gears 6. cam 7. valves 8. lifters 9. what else? Last edited by Larry Brumfield; 07-25-2010 at 10:13 AM.

07-25-2010, 11:23 AM	#17
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: NEW A Engine I beleive that was the price suggested about 6 years ago. Likely with the economy, time and unexpected expences it will be closer to 5K now. I am sure the meetings with the various people and places involved will push it beyond a reasonable cost. I have over 30 original blocks set back, so not likely I will be buying a new one any time soon, although I get the monthly update and enjoy seeing the progress. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

07-25-2010, 11:24 AM	#19
vinepro Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa Valley, CA Posts: 53	Re: NEW A Engine This will increase the amount of people putting new engines in there cars and trucks, but it will also make a lot of good engines for sale when people use the new Burts engine witch will be good for people who can't get one. This is going to be great.

07-25-2010, 11:28 AM	#20
MCHinson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 401	Re: NEW A Engine Wow, that was an interesting link. I do wonder what the cost will actually turn out to be.