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04-05-2020, 07:16 PM | #21 |
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Re: EOG's 1928 Model A Pickup
Good lookin Truck. Congrats!
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04-05-2020, 07:35 PM | #22 |
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EOG: By the way - There are no "dumb" questions when it comes to Model As, and that is from an experience since 1964. WELCOME ABOARD...
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04-05-2020, 10:08 PM | #23 |
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Wow......thanks for all the replies!
Gives me a few things to think about while I'm waiting for delivery. I wish there was a "like" button......as many of these replies deserve some recognition for the effort. Thanks Gerry......I'll look for that book......I need some reading material!!!!! odie, the eccentric old guy! |
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Thank you for the suggestion. Les Andrews book on the way, plus a copy of the original owners manual. BTW: Interior look right to you guys? odie, the eccentric old guy! |
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04-05-2020, 11:28 PM | #25 |
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I had noticed that the exterior is correct, black headlamp shells, black radiator shell, cowl band painted body color. Truck wood originally would have been pained teh body/bed color. And someone already mentioned no rear bumpers originally.
Interior - Door Cards/kick panels would have been a black cardboard type material, would not have been covered with cloth/vinyl. There also was not a headliner. The floor boards originally were just stained/painted (dipped) black. looks like the shift knob and steering wheel are aftermarket. I do think your interior is very nice, just not original. I really do like your truck. |
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28 does not have cowl band. No doubt someone will correct if I'm wrong, but I believe brown upholstery and red steering wheel are correct for 28 - agree that shift knob is aftermarket. The steering column support attached under the dash rail is a 31 type. That's a fairly common modification because stress on the gas tank mounted support can cause leaks. What's that cable(?) looped around the steering column? |
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04-06-2020, 03:11 PM | #27 |
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A really nice truck. The advice given is very good, I would add to change out the carb, the Tilly is not the best for this motor etc. Also look into engine pans and by all means check out the fan blade. The original steel blade is dangerous at best. The new Aluminum are cast and excellent. All vendors sell them. Have fun with it. Jack
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04-06-2020, 05:56 PM | #28 |
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From the Standards. through July 1928 they had black artificial leather seats and Spanish brown August 1928--mid 1930. The floor mat was the same rubber mat
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04-06-2020, 08:36 PM | #29 |
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Just a couple of more thoughts:
1) If you need to set the timing here is a little information that may come in handy. The first thing you do is to remove the timing pin from the timing cover. You reverse it and stick it into the hole so it contacts the timing gear. You turn the engine until the pin drops into a small dimple on the timing gear. The puts the engine in the correct position so you can now proceed to the distributer to set the timing. See the archives or service bulletin for the whole story. What you need to be aware of is the location of the pin is slightly different between the Model A and Model B engines. You have a Model A distributer and if you time it by the book you need a Model A front timing cover. You can find work arounds in the archives. I have attached a couple of photos. First the pin. Second a Model B timing cover showing the timing pin at the top of the oval boss. A very few timing covers were made using the oval boss with the timing pin at the bottom of the oval boss. Your truck has a Model A distributor and to time it correctly (by the book) you should see a circular boss that has been drilled for the timing pin. 2) In case you get hassled by someone about the rear license plate not being visible behind the bumper I have included a couple of pictures of how I modified the license plate bracket to mount the plate above the light. 3) When you lube it don't forget the throttle shaft that runs behind the engine (see photo), the distributer and the generator (if there is a place to lube, sometimes sealed bearings were used). These are places that are frequently overlooked. 4) Looks like a nice truck, have fun with it. Charlie Stephens |
04-06-2020, 09:29 PM | #30 | |
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04-06-2020, 10:38 PM | #31 | |
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So I noticed you highlighted the door cards/kick panels being black - is this correct or incorrect? I do not see you commenting on this. I was pretty sure trucks did not have floor mats since they were more of a utility vehicle, and also what is what I have heard from club members and read somewhere. Thanks for the corrections. |
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04-07-2020, 11:53 AM | #32 |
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[QUOTE=30 Closed Cab PU;1871118]So I noticed you highlighted the door cards/kick panels being black - is this correct or incorrect? I do not see you commenting on this.
Could be black or brown depending if it is early or late 1928. See page E-66 Trim Schemes of the Standards or page 12-33. I was pretty sure trucks did not have floor mats since they were more of a utility vehicle, and also what is what I have heard from club members and read somewhere. See Floor Coverings page E-60 or 11-3 of the Standard. The mat was part number A-35230, A-35230-B, or A-35230-C dependent on hand brake location. |
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My comment on door/kick panels is highlighted above. I may have confused by using the term "upholstery". I was including the door/kick panels as well as seat, but "interior" probably would have been more accurate. But see Bob C's posts #28 and #32 above - looks like you and I were both half right. |
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04-11-2020, 08:21 AM | #34 | |
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I checked the engine number (A263xxx) against the MAFCA chart, and it matches production date of July 1928......so, the engine, I presume is original, and cannot be a model B engine. production date chart from MAFCA here: http://www.mafca.com/data_eng_production.html @CHuDWah, I have no idea what that cable was.....it wasn't there when I took delivery. I've seen photos of other '28 Fords with the brown steering wheel......I'm assuming it's the original steering wheel.....? The truck is very dusty......but, appears to be a body-off restoration, but older. The frame, suspension, etc appears to have been painted, and reassembled. Who knows how long ago it was restored, or how much it's been driven, but it appears to have set quite a bit. There is no battery.....been removed. How do you put a new battery in? Do you have to remove the floorboard to access? Can I get a regular 6v battery at NAPA, or is this a special sized battery? (I checked with NAPA, and they stock 6v batteries.......just not sure it's the right one. All this is assuming it's a 6v system, and hasn't been converted to 12v. I checked on the starter and generator, and didn't see any markings (but it was getting dark). The oogah horn does have a plate and marked for 6v. Once I get a battery in it, I can try to start and drive it.......then I'll have a good idea of what needs to be done....... It does have operational brakes.....thankfully!!!!! Tires look aged a bit, but good tread, and no noticeable cracking. The Les Andrews book hasn't arrived yet...... I'll need a source of supplies, and counting on you guys to steer me towards where I can get needed parts for maintenance, the aluminum radiator fan, spark plugs, points (?), etc. (Is there an oil filter?) Is the oil a non-detergent oil? What weight gear oil for transmission and differential? odie, the eccentric old guy! Can you tell if this is a 6v system by it's looks in this photo? Last edited by Eccentric Old Guy; 04-11-2020 at 08:36 AM. |
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04-11-2020, 09:08 AM | #35 |
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Until you can drop the oil pan and confirm it is clean, use non-detergent. Thereafter you can use detergent. 10W-30 seems to be the current favorite but I have used straight 30W for years. Just buy the cheapest oil you can find- it will be 10X better than 1929 oil was.
Tractor Supply sells it in big containers 4-5-qt. You need a group 1, 6-volt battery, which is very common. Most retailers have them.
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Other than maintenance items you look to have a very nice truck - congratulations! ------------ Last edited by 30 Closed Cab PU; 04-11-2020 at 09:34 AM. Reason: typos |
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04-11-2020, 09:37 AM | #37 |
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Also rear end and transmission oil is usually called 600W oil, available form the model a vendors. There are also other options others here on the Barn can recommend.
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04-11-2020, 11:01 AM | #38 |
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The picture of the engine you posted has a B head on it, post a picture of the
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Is it possible to have a model B head on a model A block????? (the serial number of the block definitely places it at a July 1928 date.......this does seem confusing, for sure.....! Last edited by Eccentric Old Guy; 04-11-2020 at 12:02 PM. |
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04-11-2020, 11:16 AM | #40 | |
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I can add some fresh gas to the tank.....that might be a good idea, eh? EOG Last edited by Eccentric Old Guy; 04-11-2020 at 12:02 PM. |
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