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mike657894 · 11-14-2017, 01:41 AM

Should I get a clutch plate with springs in it to replace the solid one I found that works? The motor mounts were cracked and holes were pushed around. Are repops available? I didnt find any. Should I just get a float a mount instead?

J Franklin · 11-14-2017, 01:55 AM

If you go to the clutch disk with springs make sure the are well captured so they don't pop loose. I like the original mounts. You can find good ones if you try.

Mike V. Florida · 11-14-2017, 01:56 AM

I'm a believer in if it ain't broke don't fix it. As for the mounts, contact Berts in Denver.

Terry, NJ · 11-14-2017, 08:25 AM

The common fix is to weld any crack in motor mounts (Usually in the corners). It seems there are two kinds of mounts, those that are cracked and those that will crack. If you go to a welding/fabrication shop, the charge shouldn't be more than ten bucks to weld them.
Terry

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Originally Posted by mike657894

Should I get a clutch plate with springs in it to replace the solid one I found that works? The motor mounts were cracked and holes were pushed around. Are repops available? I didnt find any. Should I just get a float a mount instead?

WHN · 11-14-2017, 08:30 AM

I would stay with original motor mounts. Enjoy.

Big hammer · 11-14-2017, 09:43 AM

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Engine removal is not needed to change out motor mounts, removed my mounts as a teenager to replace the rubbers. Now that the motor is out, it would be a good idea to check out the pressure plate, disk, bearings, etc!

lindy williams · 11-14-2017, 10:14 AM

Radiator need to be cleaned? Pilot bearing need to be replaced? Condition of the starter ring gear? Water pump rebuild? Is the front cross member of the frame cracked? These are all areas that commonly need attention. when the engine is out is the time to do them.
V out the cracks in the motor mounts and take them to a competent weldor. That's the cheapest and easiest way to repair.

1928Mik · 11-14-2017, 10:19 AM

I would do everything Lindy says, plus spruce up the engine bay and replace anything that's worn out.

SeaSlugs · 11-14-2017, 10:19 AM

Yea motor mounts are typically cracked. I was buying them for $1 each at swap meets. Thick steel and easy to weld. Along with everything else mentioned check your frame for sagging and straighten it now.

Arlyn Bieber · 11-14-2017, 10:43 AM

Don't forget the transmission. Now is the time to replace all bearings & worn shafts. Then carefully inspect all gears and replace as necessary. Nothing worse than rebuilding the engine and have a bearing go bad in the transmission months down the road then you get to remove the engine again. First time fun, second time a pain!!!!

mike657894 · 11-14-2017, 10:47 AM

There are front cross member cracks to be welded. I have a welder and can fix all the cracks. The water pump is getting a new impeller its missing the corners of the blades. I will clean the radiator. flush from the top? I need to clean and paint all the areas that have been exposed. The engine is out to get it bored and new pistons/rings. The pilot bearing is good but ill replace it as I can get to it now. The pressure plate and clutch disk look to be replacements the fly wheel has some cracking in the surface but its small. I will inspect the trans too.

SeaSlugs · 11-14-2017, 10:50 AM

yea going thru the trans internals isnt a hard deal. Nows the time to check the clutch shaft and pedal shaft for wear. While its out can inspect and repack the u joint as well.

katy · 11-14-2017, 11:01 AM

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I will clean the radiator. flush from the top?

Flush from the bottom is preferred.

abachman3 · 11-14-2017, 12:03 PM

Stop drill small holes at the ends of the cracks in the motor mounts and then weld them up.

glenn in camino · 11-14-2017, 08:27 PM

Might as well begin a frame up restoration.

100IH · 11-15-2017, 03:04 PM

Check everything for condition, size, wear. It is all so the engine only comes out once. If the engine does come out a second time, that's when you add it to the list.

11-14-2017, 01:41 AM	#1
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	what should be done when the engine is out? Should I get a clutch plate with springs in it to replace the solid one I found that works? The motor mounts were cracked and holes were pushed around. Are repops available? I didnt find any. Should I just get a float a mount instead?

11-14-2017, 01:55 AM	#2
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,963	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? If you go to the clutch disk with springs make sure the are well captured so they don't pop loose. I like the original mounts. You can find good ones if you try.

11-14-2017, 01:56 AM	#3
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? I'm a believer in if it ain't broke don't fix it. As for the mounts, contact Berts in Denver. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

11-14-2017, 08:30 AM	#5
WHN Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Connecticut Shoreline Posts: 1,823	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? I would stay with original motor mounts. Enjoy.

11-14-2017, 09:43 AM	#6
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Engine removal is not needed to change out motor mounts, removed my mounts as a teenager to replace the rubbers. Now that the motor is out, it would be a good idea to check out the pressure plate, disk, bearings, etc! __________________ Don't force it with a little hammer tap, tap, tap get a bigger hammer tap done

11-14-2017, 10:14 AM	#7
lindy williams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 335	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? Radiator need to be cleaned? Pilot bearing need to be replaced? Condition of the starter ring gear? Water pump rebuild? Is the front cross member of the frame cracked? These are all areas that commonly need attention. when the engine is out is the time to do them. V out the cracks in the motor mounts and take them to a competent weldor. That's the cheapest and easiest way to repair.

11-14-2017, 10:19 AM	#8
1928Mik Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Zanesville Ohio USA Posts: 268	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? I would do everything Lindy says, plus spruce up the engine bay and replace anything that's worn out. __________________ 1928 Niagara Blue Phaeton 1972 Olds 442 Convertible 1979 MGB -Life's Too Short To Drive Boring Cars-

11-14-2017, 10:19 AM	#9
SeaSlugs Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central, IL Posts: 3,968	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? Yea motor mounts are typically cracked. I was buying them for $1 each at swap meets. Thick steel and easy to weld. Along with everything else mentioned check your frame for sagging and straighten it now. __________________ 1929 Model AA - Need long splash aprons!

11-14-2017, 10:43 AM	#10
Arlyn Bieber Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 180	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? Don't forget the transmission. Now is the time to replace all bearings & worn shafts. Then carefully inspect all gears and replace as necessary. Nothing worse than rebuilding the engine and have a bearing go bad in the transmission months down the road then you get to remove the engine again. First time fun, second time a pain!!!!

11-14-2017, 10:47 AM	#11
mike657894 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Bay City Michigan Posts: 1,050	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? There are front cross member cracks to be welded. I have a welder and can fix all the cracks. The water pump is getting a new impeller its missing the corners of the blades. I will clean the radiator. flush from the top? I need to clean and paint all the areas that have been exposed. The engine is out to get it bored and new pistons/rings. The pilot bearing is good but ill replace it as I can get to it now. The pressure plate and clutch disk look to be replacements the fly wheel has some cracking in the surface but its small. I will inspect the trans too.

11-14-2017, 10:50 AM	#12
SeaSlugs Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central, IL Posts: 3,968	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? yea going thru the trans internals isnt a hard deal. Nows the time to check the clutch shaft and pedal shaft for wear. While its out can inspect and repack the u joint as well. __________________ 1929 Model AA - Need long splash aprons!

11-14-2017, 12:03 PM	#14
abachman3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Western Springs, IL Posts: 324	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? Stop drill small holes at the ends of the cracks in the motor mounts and then weld them up.

11-14-2017, 08:27 PM	#15
glenn in camino Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camino, CA. Posts: 3,086	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? Might as well begin a frame up restoration.

11-15-2017, 03:04 PM	#16
100IH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SW Idaho Posts: 970	Re: what should be done when the engine is out? Check everything for condition, size, wear. It is all so the engine only comes out once. If the engine does come out a second time, that's when you add it to the list.