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Old 07-22-2016, 04:48 PM   #1
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Default Squealing niose - RPM dependent

My 31 Tudor engine had a squealing noise that I could not locate. The plan was to attack each point in order and check possible success.
1. Oil distributor shaft
2. Oil engine front mount
3. Spray water on fan belt
4. Remove fan belt to exclude water pump and alternator as the source.
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Old 07-22-2016, 05:10 PM   #2
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Welcome. I just took apart a distributor that someone had installed a simple spring loaded flip lid oiler, which of course means you'd be squirting oil in from the side. This will not hold oil and will not properly lubricate the distributor shaft. I have an original oiler for the distributor and will install it when I restore the distributor.

That oiler should be filled to overflowing every 500 miles. You can not over lubricate the distributor.
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Welcome. I just took apart a distributor that someone had installed a simple spring loaded flip lid oiler, which of course means you'd be squirting oil in from the side. This will not hold oil and will not properly lubricate the distributor shaft. I have an original oiler for the distributor and will install it when I restore the distributor.

That oiler should be filled to overflowing every 500 miles. You can not over lubricate the distributor.

Thanks Tom, my distributor has the oiler you mention and I have to continually oil it. Didn't realise it wasn't origional. Is this it? So you fill it up and screw it on ?

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My 31 Tudor engine had a squealing noise that I could not locate. The plan was to attack each point in order and check possible success.
1. Oil distributor shaft
2. Oil engine front mount
3. Spray water on fan belt
4. Remove fan belt to exclude water pump and alternator as the source.
5. Scratch head (mine!)
6. Sign on to Ford Barn for new ideas.

#1 solved the problem and no additional action was needed. It is great when an easy fix shows up!!
Wecome to the Barn!! So now your the noise expert we all can go to :-)
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:13 PM   #5
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Thanks Tom, my distributor has the oiler you mention and I have to continually oil it. Didn't realise it wasn't origional. Is this it? So you fill it up and screw it on ?
The wrong one I spoke about is the type with the flip lid, as found on most small electric motors.

The one you pictured is the sliding sleeve type, so you have to pull back on the knurled sleeve and squirt oil into the hole until it's full. When you install this oiler into the distributor, be sure you slide back the sleeve and note the position of the oil hole, so you have it UP when the part is tapped in.

The reason the remove these during restoration is to make painting and blasting easier, and to clean out any old dirt and dried hard oil.
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Yeah mine at present has the flip lid type. Is the sliding sleeve type origional style or is origional something different again?
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Get rid of the flip lid type and install the original style sliding sleeve oiler.

The flip lid will not oil the shaft correctly.

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Old 07-22-2016, 08:43 PM   #9
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Newbie question....do I just use regular motor oil for the distributor or is it something else?

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Regular motor oil is what you use.
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Thanks Tom, that's what I thought......
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Thanks again Tom
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If the flip lid type has a 90* bend so it holds the tube full of oil, it will be fine, but if it's the common small push in style so you have to squirt the oil in from the side, it just won't hold the oil. Your choice, your gamble, but I'll stick with Ford's original that works and has for 85 years.
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Here's a picture of the oil cup you don't want to use on the distributor.
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