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Old 10-04-2015, 03:07 AM   #1
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Default BEWARE Fordbarn hustler on the loose

i didnt know where to post this but here we go...

I have an ad in the wanted section about a 32-34 11-39 / 3:54 rear end ratio.
Yesterday i got a response that almost fooled me to pay $650.00 for well.. Probably nothing. After a few emails back and forth things got weirder and weirder and i had to do some background check.

I googled "11-39 3:54 32-34 gears" and the SAME text was in Randy Pimplers old eBay auction back in 2013, exactly the same numbers was etched in on the ring gear too. The dude refused to send any photos of the pieces until i said the deal were off until i got some pics.
Another weird thing was that i asked for his Fordbarn nickname and his profile was made the same day (jjjohnson768) zero posts etc.

Here you have the entire conversation (read from bortom and up)



lördag 3 oktober 2015 skrev Jeffery J. Johnson <[email protected]>:
Hello Viktor,

I know you feel weird about that and i am worried too and here is the picture




On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Viktor Wallin <[email protected]> wrote:
Ok, this feels a bit weird now. It would fel alot better if you took some recent detailed photos and sended to me. With the date of the ring gear and all showing.

If you cant im afraid im not interested in the deal.

Thanks
Viktor

lördag 3 oktober 2015 skrev Jeffery J. Johnson <[email protected]>:
Viktor, this add have end since Aug 26, 2013 I do not know that person you are talking about and mine was from California So and what was what how sold it from me sent me OK


On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Viktor Wallin <[email protected]> wrote:
Randy Pimpler is the one who wrote the text that was in the auction that you copied and sent to me in the first email.
Take a look:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-1933-19...p2047675.l2557


lördag 3 oktober 2015 skrev Jeffery J. Johnson <[email protected]>:
Viktor, Who is Randy? I do not Know what you are talking about, But if you feel you are not comfortable with the deal it fine with me but i am a honest man and that is why i sent my ID for you to confirm and to know who you are dealing with.


On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Viktor Wallin <[email protected]> wrote:
OK, can you explane why the text you sent me are the exact text that Randy pimpler had in his sales ad and his matched ring and pinion set is also stamped 4-34 and also etched "2349".
This feels weird you know.

Den 3 okt 2015 10:23 em skrev "Jeffery J. Johnson" <[email protected]>:
I have been the own pass 3 months now and i bought it in California

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Viktor Wallin <[email protected]> wrote:
OK, when did you bought this set? How long have you owned it?

Thanks
Viktor

Den 3 okt 2015 10:13 em skrev "Jeffery J. Johnson" <[email protected]>:
Hello Viktor,

Yes my nickname at Fordbarn is jjjohnson768, and i bought the pinion and ring from California and here is my ID to confirm OK, You do not have to worry because once i confirm payment from you i will ship out to your stated address.

Many thanks,

Jj


On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Viktor Wallin <[email protected]> wrote:
Im just curious, where and when did you got this ring and pinion? From Who did you buy it?

Sorry for the questions, i just want to feel safe to pay you the money.

Thanks
Viktor

Den 3 okt 2015 7:50 em skrev "Jeffery J. Johnson" <[email protected]>:
Thanks for the address but I do not accept paypal. You are to use the information in making payment via Money gram, here is my info below-

Name: Jeffery Johnson
City: Nunnelly,
State: Tennessee
Country: United State
Amount: $682

Please scan the copy of your payment slip from Money gram and Once I confirm your payment I will ship out to you stated address and I will email to you all shipping information.

I hope to hear from you with the payment information.

So much thanks,
Jj



On Saturday, October 3, 2015, Viktor Wallin <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK that sounds good.
> The adress is:
>
> Viktor Vallin
>
> 601 W Linden
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> Av # 86554
>
> Linden, NJ
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> 07036
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> You dont take paypal?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Viktor
>
> Den 3 okt 2015 5:26 em skrev "Jeffery J. Johnson" <[email protected]>:
>>
>> Ok I can. Ship to you to shipping company and the. Shipping cost will be $32 and the total cost will be $682. So you will have to send the shipping company address and I will email to you information in which you can make payment via Money Gram and once I confirm payment I will ship out to your stated address.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Jj
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 3, 2015, Viktor Wallin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Ok, so you're good with $650 for the 11-39 ring gear & pinion?
>> > I live in Sweden, so if you can send them with USPS to Sweden or do you wanna send
>> > them to my shipping company in Linden, NJ?
>> > Of course i will pay for the shipping charges.
>> > Thanks
>> > Viktor
>> >
>> > lördag 3 oktober 2015 skrev Jeffery J. Johnson <[email protected]>:
>> >>
>> >> Viktor as I told you I can't get any more pictures for you but if you want to buy pinion and ring for the price I will give them out to you. So what is your complete shipping address?
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jj
>> >>
>> >> On Saturday, October 3, 2015, Viktor Wallin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > OK, Im only interested in the 11-39 3.54 pinion and ring gear. Would you sell those two alone for 650$ ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Would be great if you can send me some pictures of the rusted areas.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Viktor
>> >> >
>> >> > Den 3 okt 2015 4:42 em skrev "Jeffery J. Johnson" <[email protected]>:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Viktor, Yes i am going out the complete set for $840 and i have sent you the pictures that i have. If you are Ok with the price kindly send to me your complete shipping address and i will email information in which you can proceed with payment via Money Gram.



>> >> >>
>> >> >> Many thanks
>> >> >> Jj
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Hello,
>> >> Yes i have one for sell, Please kindly contact me for more information.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Jj
>> >> Email:[email protected]

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Old 10-04-2015, 03:17 AM   #2
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As you can see the ratio in the pic he sent is not an early V8 ratio. Probably just a pic from Google and then he added the date at the bottom right in paint or whatever.

Anybody else got some emails from mr Jeffrey Johnson aka jjjohnson768 ??
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Old 10-04-2015, 05:03 AM   #3
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I have , have a ad in the wanted section for a 1940 ford jjjohnson768 contacted me and said he has one for sale,i see he is a new member...is see he is a scammer thanks for the heads up...al
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Old 10-04-2015, 06:20 AM   #4
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The grammatical errors are usually the first tip-off for scammers. Then the reluctance to explain the origination of the parts and provide good images. Then the insistence on payment types like money gram and Western Union.
Thanks for tipping us off to this person.
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Old 10-04-2015, 07:19 AM   #5
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Yes, Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 10-04-2015, 07:37 AM   #6
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In the last few weeks , I had a guy contact me, using what appeared to be the identical verbiage, that I posted on "The Early V-8 Club of America" site , in the wanted parts section.......I asked for a '34 Tudor garnish molding; what he sent was a photo for a 3 window coupe garnish molding ......That's when I got suspicious....he was searching on line, using "'34 garnish molding "........When I questioned the coupe molding, he sent some of a Tudor... I did a online search, and found the same photos, from other peoples adds, he sent me in his e-mail...........also, the V-8 club allows ANYONE into their site ( he wasn't a registered member )BEWARE................
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Old 10-04-2015, 07:58 AM   #7
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Too many flags for me, probably would have dumped the idea at the first Umlaut.
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:18 AM   #8
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WRA, I know your right, and knew it at the time, when I saw the coupe molding......but I try to follow any and all possible leads to the fullest extent............and still looking.........
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:20 AM   #9
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Same just happened to me with this jjj guy. Said he had the part I wanted and needed
my email and then said he just sold it to a friend. Also showed he just joined the same day he emailed me.
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Old 10-04-2015, 09:37 AM   #10
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Two words are the tip off "Money Gram".
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Old 10-04-2015, 11:45 AM   #11
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If a responders grammer is like that I just drop all communications. Tells me SCAMMER !
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Old 10-04-2015, 11:49 AM   #12
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Also just got an email from the same guy, totally a scam artist. He replies to a wanted section, said he had a 39 truck for sale. He sent me a link to a 49 ford truck that is obviously not his. Watch out for this guy.
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Old 10-04-2015, 01:19 PM   #13
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at the first mention of payment by money gram all comunication with this jerk would have ended, also he removed the pic

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Old 10-04-2015, 02:24 PM   #14
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If the guy is a member shouldn't the person who blocks folks take care of him?
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Old 10-04-2015, 06:13 PM   #15
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Should put their names on the front page of the classifieds if we don't remove them some other way. What a drag.
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Yeah Ryan should be made aware.
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Old 10-04-2015, 06:23 PM   #17
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It would be great if a list of scammers was developed. Than we could ck the list before buying or selling. I have had scammers contact me.
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Old 10-04-2015, 06:45 PM   #18
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Ryan can't put up such a list, nor can he allow one to develop, as then he would be the responsible party vulnerable to libel suits should some jerk decide to sue. The present system of posting scammers in the Forum section like this one allows Ryan the deniability he needs. If everyone who reads the ads also reads the Forum, they'll be aware of these guys and better prepared to deal with them.
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He just told me he had a 4-2 Y-Block Intake.
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If I have any questions I just look in the archives for the persons name and see if there are any complaints. If they pass that test I then check their previous posts to see if they are here for a hobby or something else.

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