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Ed Pitts · 02-28-2012, 02:41 PM

If you are going to put a 59AB engine in a 36, here is the hose combo that fits. Upper: Gates 21253
Lower: Gates 20151

If you are going to run an alternator, here is the belt to use with the fan mounted alternator: NAPA 22545

The 46-48 fan will not work because of the radiator tilt.
Use a 3 wire alternator because of the pulley size to mount the fan. It starts charging as soon as you come off idle.

This combination worked for me. Ed

roadster36 · 02-28-2012, 02:50 PM

Good info there Ed, thank you for posting it. - Dennis

Hank the 36 · 02-28-2012, 05:25 PM

Thank you Ed
H36

Mart · 02-28-2012, 05:36 PM

Nice tidy job.

Thanks for the numbers.

Mart.

Topsterguy · 12-25-2013, 06:01 PM

Great! MUCH appreciated Ed!

Heard · 12-25-2013, 07:47 PM

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I like it! This is the kind of info that is so valuable. Thanks!

Jack E/NJ · 12-25-2013, 07:50 PM

Ed>>>Use a 3 wire alternator because of the pulley size to mount the fan. It starts charging as soon as you come off idle.>>>

??? A 3-wire should charge at idle even with a big pulley, no revving should be necessary.

Jack E/NJ

37 Coupe · 12-25-2013, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Pitts

If you are going to put a 59AB engine in a 36, here is the hose combo that fits. Upper: Gates 21253
Lower: Gates 20151

If you are going to run an alternator, here is the belt to use with the fan mounted alternator: NAPA 22545

The 46-48 fan will not work because of the radiator tilt.
Use a 3 wire alternator because of the pulley size to mount the fan. It starts charging as soon as you come off idle.

This combination worked for me. Ed

Another item to consider is the crankshaft pulley to use when putting the 59AB in an earlier car with generator or alternator mounted fan. You don't need or don't have room foor double original 59AB pulley.The ideal one to find and use is original Ford part # 81C-6312-A one year only used on 1939 Ford standard. It would be the same looking early pulley but with i.d to fit crankshafts after 1939. Next choice would be 39-40 Ford and cutoff the fan mount part. Lots of people get stumped when they try to put a 32-38 crank pulley on a later crank.

oldbugger · 12-25-2013, 09:05 PM

Ed, I have a similar set up, but I am not crazy about the speed of the fan because of the small pulley size. Sounds like a blower at speed. What size pulley are you using. Thanks, Paul

Ed Pitts · 12-26-2013, 07:55 AM

Paul, I am using a pulley from Speedway for the fan mount. No issues with the pulley.
Ed

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Offenh...ord,25025.html

oldbugger · 12-26-2013, 02:58 PM

Ed, Have you had your radiator in place yet to check the clearance. I don't have that much room on my 35. That looks like a great set up if it all can be put together without issues. Looks nice, Paul

Ed Pitts · 12-26-2013, 05:12 PM

Paul, that is the reason to use the shorter belt and the later intake. It fits nicely under the radiator with no issues. Ed

oldbugger · 12-26-2013, 07:40 PM

That looks really nice, plenty of room. My 53 merc engine must be a little longer. I don't have that much room. Thanks, Paul

vulture · 12-29-2013, 09:58 AM

Thank you great info

Drbrown · 12-29-2013, 04:02 PM

The three-wire ALT (i.e. Delco 10 SI) should charge at idle if you connect the sensor wire to the seloniod terminal, instead of the output post on the ALT body. I changed mine and now at 500 rpm idle, with no items turned on, it charges at abt 3 to 5 amps pending the state of the battery, and at idle it will stay there (or higher) if I i.e. turn on the headlights.

02-28-2012, 02:50 PM	#2
roadster36 BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sonoma,Calif. Posts: 877	Re: 59AB into a 36 Good info there Ed, thank you for posting it. - Dennis

02-28-2012, 05:25 PM	#3
Hank the 36 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South of LA Posts: 90	Re: 59AB into a 36 Thank you Ed H36

02-28-2012, 05:36 PM	#4
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,750	Re: 59AB into a 36 Nice tidy job. Thanks for the numbers. Mart.

12-25-2013, 06:01 PM	#5
Topsterguy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 354	Re: 59AB into a 36 Great! MUCH appreciated Ed!

12-25-2013, 07:47 PM	#6
Heard Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 587	Re: 59AB into a 36 Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I like it! This is the kind of info that is so valuable. Thanks! __________________ Do I look like I have a plan B?

12-25-2013, 07:50 PM	#7
Jack E/NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,173	Re: 59AB into a 36 Ed>>>Use a 3 wire alternator because of the pulley size to mount the fan. It starts charging as soon as you come off idle.>>> ??? A 3-wire should charge at idle even with a big pulley, no revving should be necessary. Jack E/NJ

12-25-2013, 09:05 PM	#9
oldbugger Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Holland Mi Posts: 640	Re: 59AB into a 36 Ed, I have a similar set up, but I am not crazy about the speed of the fan because of the small pulley size. Sounds like a blower at speed. What size pulley are you using. Thanks, Paul

12-26-2013, 02:58 PM	#11
oldbugger Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Holland Mi Posts: 640	Re: 59AB into a 36 Ed, Have you had your radiator in place yet to check the clearance. I don't have that much room on my 35. That looks like a great set up if it all can be put together without issues. Looks nice, Paul

12-26-2013, 07:40 PM	#13
oldbugger Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Holland Mi Posts: 640	Re: 59AB into a 36 That looks really nice, plenty of room. My 53 merc engine must be a little longer. I don't have that much room. Thanks, Paul

12-29-2013, 09:58 AM	#14
vulture Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: In the shop Posts: 359	Re: 59AB into a 36 Thank you great info __________________ Wanted Roadster Pick up thank you COLOR]

12-29-2013, 04:02 PM	#15
Drbrown Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Glens Falls NY Posts: 1,267	Re: 59AB into a 36 The three-wire ALT (i.e. Delco 10 SI) should charge at idle if you connect the sensor wire to the seloniod terminal, instead of the output post on the ALT body. I changed mine and now at 500 rpm idle, with no items turned on, it charges at abt 3 to 5 amps pending the state of the battery, and at idle it will stay there (or higher) if I i.e. turn on the headlights.