09-28-2020, 06:57 PM | #21 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Midland Park, NJ
Posts: 3,982
|
Re: Wire splicing
I did electrical systems from scratch on two cars. Always crimped them. The oldest was done 35 years ago. Never had a connection go sour on me and this car has a lot of miles on it.
I used a crimp tool similar in design to the one shown above.
__________________
48 Ford Conv 56 Tbird 54 Ford Victoria |
09-28-2020, 07:14 PM | #22 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Mount Desert, Maine
Posts: 504
|
Re: Wire splicing
Just ordered a ratchet crimper- time to upgrade the miserable excuse I currently have
__________________
No job’s done ‘til it’s all done |
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
09-28-2020, 08:31 PM | #23 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Hayward,CA
Posts: 513
|
Re: Wire splicing
I used to solder every connection on every wire.
Customers sent new customers because they liked my soldering. I NEVER, never solder wires any more. Never. If you solder battery cable terminals I won’t say anything bad about you. Larger wires like no. 8 wires going to the alternator or generator and to get power off the soilinoid for the rest of the system will be the first to break. I did a beautiful job on the bid red #6 or 8 wire going to the output terminal on my Volvo alternator. It broke three times in two years. Now it has a double #10 (2 wires) with CRIMPED terminals. been fine four years. Similar thing happened on another of my cars that made me scared to drive it. The soldered wire had broken off but was still touching the solenoid terminal. At speed the alternator kept it running well. If it broke contact at idle I’d play hell sometimes getting it started again. Then I noticed it was broken off completely. I ran two smaller wires down there with crimped ends and now it stars and runs like new. That terminal was broke off maybe three years. Get a good crimping tool,even if you have order it and wait. I have three. One has large handles like a bolt cutters. Another one you hit with a hammer. |
09-29-2020, 09:33 AM | #24 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montgomery, NY & Port St. Lucie Florida
Posts: 936
|
Re: Wire splicing
What I have done for years is crimp first then solder.
If you "tin" the wire first and then crimp it the possibility exist that if the wire gets hot enough to soften the solder the connection can pull apart. If you crimp first you have a solid mechanical connection and the solder then makes for a excellent electrical connection. If the wire gets hot enough to melt the solder the mechanical connection should still be OK If I had a connection getting hot enough to melt solder I would be worried about what's causing the issue !!!
__________________
Early Ford Lock & Key Service http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46583 |
09-29-2020, 04:47 PM | #25 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Skiatook, Ok
Posts: 26
|
Re: Wire splicing
Quote:
__________________
Aim low--achieve your goals. |
|
10-04-2020, 03:14 AM | #26 |
Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Illinois
Posts: 48
|
Re: Wire splicing
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
|
10-04-2020, 03:15 AM | #27 |
Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Illinois
Posts: 48
|
Re: Wire splicing
If you want to keep the cloth look, Ron Francis sells heat shrink tube with a black cloth outer lining. It looks and works pretty well.
|
10-04-2020, 04:47 AM | #28 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 541
|
Re: Wire splicing
Way back when I was green and simple I pulled wires on Lears, Swearingens and Gulfstreams. We were taught to crimp, not solder (or soder) unless the solder joint is mechanically supported.
The reason given was the vibration effect on wires. At some point along the wire solder joints quickly transition from very stiff to very flexible and at can fail at this point if not supported. Crimp joints have a slightly more gradual transition from stiff to flexible. Having said all this, I prefer to solder (and secure). It seems correct for the car I guess. Also there are some really dodgy automotive ratchet crimpers out there, and you don't always get the joint you think you're getting. Back in the aviation days we would get the crimpers calibrated regularly for crimp force. |
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|