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CSArno · 02-28-2016, 06:34 PM

Being the 3 speed in my '49 F1 is the first one I have ever driven, is 1st gear supposed to be synchronized like 2nd and 3rd? I had the trans opened up and soaked it in a tank of kero to clean it out. Nothing jumped out at me as being wrong on inspection.

Thanks,
Chris

jake197000 · 02-28-2016, 06:40 PM

its working as it should no syncro in first.

CSArno · 02-28-2016, 07:02 PM

Super! Thanks

Charlie Stephens · 02-28-2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jake197000

its working as it should no syncro in first.

I must admit the I am not an expert on truck transmissions of that period but I would assume that they would have synchro first to second but not back from second to first. Anyone care to back me up here (or tell me I am wrong)?

Charlie Stephens

Flathead · 02-28-2016, 08:47 PM

I'll back you up

flatford8 · 02-28-2016, 09:18 PM

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Careful when you go to back up...... Reverse isn't synchonized!! ....Mark

alanwoodieman · 02-28-2016, 10:15 PM

synchro between first and second and second to third but not back to first--

CSArno · 02-29-2016, 07:15 AM

Thanks guys.

JM 35 Sedan · 02-29-2016, 08:32 AM

No syncro going into reverse either. The first/reverse slide gear and the gears it meshes with usually take a beating because of this.

Mike51Merc · 02-29-2016, 09:09 AM

Just to be clear, second and third are synchronized--- there is no "between" synchronization.

And a side note, when you're stopped or nearly stopped you can cheat a little by quickly shifting into second before first.

RalphG · 02-29-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike51Merc

Just to be clear, second and third are synchronized--- there is no "between" synchronization.

And a side note, when you're stopped or nearly stopped you can cheat a little by quickly shifting into second before first.

I thought I remembered that trick from many years ago too.

flatford8 · 02-29-2016, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike51Merc

Just to be clear, second and third are synchronized--- there is no "between" synchronization.

And a side note, when you're stopped or nearly stopped you can cheat a little by quickly shifting into second before first.

That works going into reverse too.... Mark

Bob C · 02-29-2016, 11:28 AM

Yep, no synchro in first.

Bob

rotorwrench · 02-29-2016, 01:48 PM

Same guts as the 42 through 48 Ford pickups. Only intermediate & high gear synchronization. Slowing the cluster by down shifting into intermediate does help. Double clutching also helps during down shifts. The other good alternative is to let the truck come to a complete stop before engaging low gear.

Hoop · 02-29-2016, 02:22 PM

"The other good alternative is to let the truck come to a complete stop before engaging low gear."

Providing you leave the shift lever in either 2nd or 3rd until completely stopped ... and do not linger in neutral, clutch in or out, for too long. If you do, "stop" the transmission by shifting to second or third then smoothly back to 1st.

Guys have been grinding transmissions for years without knowing why they're chewing up the gears. Love the ones who back up then grind going into 1st every time.

CSArno · 02-29-2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

No syncro going into reverse either. The first/reverse slide gear and the gears it meshes with usually take a beating because of this.

That gear was beat up a little but I decided to run it a rebuild later if it needed it.

02-28-2016, 06:34 PM	#1
CSArno Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Maine Posts: 378	3 speed trans question Being the 3 speed in my '49 F1 is the first one I have ever driven, is 1st gear supposed to be synchronized like 2nd and 3rd? I had the trans opened up and soaked it in a tank of kero to clean it out. Nothing jumped out at me as being wrong on inspection. Thanks, Chris

02-28-2016, 06:40 PM	#2
jake197000 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 349	Re: 3 speed trans question its working as it should no syncro in first.

02-28-2016, 07:02 PM	#3
CSArno Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Maine Posts: 378	Re: 3 speed trans question Super! Thanks

02-28-2016, 08:47 PM	#5
Flathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 1,497	Re: 3 speed trans question I'll back you up

02-28-2016, 09:18 PM	#6
flatford8 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Lyman,ME. Posts: 2,623	Re: 3 speed trans question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Careful when you go to back up...... Reverse isn't synchonized!! ....Mark __________________ I'm thinkin' about crankin' My ragged ol' truck up and haulin' myself into town. Billy Joe Shaver

02-28-2016, 10:15 PM	#7
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: 3 speed trans question synchro between first and second and second to third but not back to first--

02-29-2016, 07:15 AM	#8
CSArno Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Maine Posts: 378	Re: 3 speed trans question Thanks guys.

02-29-2016, 08:32 AM	#9
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: 3 speed trans question No syncro going into reverse either. The first/reverse slide gear and the gears it meshes with usually take a beating because of this. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

02-29-2016, 09:09 AM	#10
Mike51Merc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,582	Re: 3 speed trans question Just to be clear, second and third are synchronized--- there is no "between" synchronization. And a side note, when you're stopped or nearly stopped you can cheat a little by quickly shifting into second before first.

02-29-2016, 11:28 AM	#13
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,743	Re: 3 speed trans question Yep, no synchro in first. Bob

02-29-2016, 01:48 PM	#14
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,425	Re: 3 speed trans question Same guts as the 42 through 48 Ford pickups. Only intermediate & high gear synchronization. Slowing the cluster by down shifting into intermediate does help. Double clutching also helps during down shifts. The other good alternative is to let the truck come to a complete stop before engaging low gear.

02-29-2016, 02:22 PM	#15
Hoop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 1,137	Re: 3 speed trans question "The other good alternative is to let the truck come to a complete stop before engaging low gear." Providing you leave the shift lever in either 2nd or 3rd until completely stopped ... and do not linger in neutral, clutch in or out, for too long. If you do, "stop" the transmission by shifting to second or third then smoothly back to 1st. Guys have been grinding transmissions for years without knowing why they're chewing up the gears. Love the ones who back up then grind going into 1st every time. __________________ "Remember that when it comes to intelligence, half of all of us are below average."