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12-03-2015, 11:44 AM | #1 |
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Hinge pin removal tool needed
I need to borrow someone's hinge pin removal tool to install a mirror on the right side. I hate to buy a tool to use once. Or is there another way to remove the pin?
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12-03-2015, 11:59 AM | #2 |
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Re: Hinge pin removal tool needed
I bought one to do 2 mirrors. Have loaned it out more times that I can remember. If you are part of a club in and around Brownsville, someone probably has one you can borrow.
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12-03-2015, 12:04 PM | #3 |
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Re: Hinge pin removal tool needed
I used a large US made 6" C clamp and a 10mm socket. Place the 10mm socket on top of the hinge pin with the drive end up and place the C clamp on the bottom of the pin and on top of the 10mm socket. Suggest that you first spray on some good penetrating oil like Kroil or some other STRONG penetrating solvent multiple times to loosen the rust before trying this method. It worked for me on both sides of the vehicle. Good Luck
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12-03-2015, 12:04 PM | #4 |
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Re: Hinge pin removal tool needed
drill it out
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12-03-2015, 12:19 PM | #5 |
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Re: Hinge pin removal tool needed
Just a tip that I saw when removing a pin on my '30 Coupe door: Open and close the door while watching the head of the hinge pin at the hinge. If the hinge pin rotates when the door is moved, it probably will be a beast to remove and will require drilling as it is stuck in the main body of the hinge. If the pin is stationary when the door is moved then most likely it will come out easier but with a bit of effort. The pins usually have "steps" worn into them by the hinge and may require door movement when being driven out. By the way, Henry used hardened steel for the pins and that requires a carbide drill bit to cut into the pin. Be patient and use plenty of penetrating oil.
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12-03-2015, 12:20 PM | #6 |
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12-03-2015, 12:45 PM | #7 |
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Re: Hinge pin removal tool needed
Buy the tool, nice to have in the future, you never know when you'll need it again.
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12-03-2015, 12:57 PM | #8 |
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the tool does not work most of the time
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12-03-2015, 01:20 PM | #9 |
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Tom has posted pictures of worn pins that will not come out unless they are drilled. Be aware that this may hinder your plan.
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12-03-2015, 01:26 PM | #10 |
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Re: Hinge pin removal tool needed
I agree with Mitch - the removal tools usually don't work very well. I bent the tool's pin trying to remove the hinge pins on my 28 coupe. Drilling works. Maybe heating the hinge would help break the pins loose, but I have never tried heating the hinges before although heat sure works great for rusted nuts and bolts.
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I found a way that almost ALWAYS works. Drilled a deep hole in the end of a 2 X 2 X 8" steel block for a backup. Put 3 layers of duct tape for protection, below the hinge. Hit the exposed end of the pin from below, with a 48 Oz Ball Pein Hammer, then finish with a pin punch. The SECRET is a really HEAVY back up & of course, AN ASSISTANT. Bill W.
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12-03-2015, 01:31 PM | #12 |
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12-03-2015, 01:36 PM | #13 |
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i dont use heat in that area for many reasons
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12-03-2015, 01:43 PM | #14 |
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I used the pin tool on a friends A and on my 38. All came out decent on the 38. Model A all but the last one came out. It's always the last one you need out that gives you grief. Bent and mushroomed out the tool pin. Used heat prior, just had to drill that one out.
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12-03-2015, 01:55 PM | #15 |
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My experience says the tool you borrow may work, or it may not.
If you foul up the borrowed tool you will end up buying one for the other guy & end up with nothing. I own a pin remover tool that worked on two pins before failing on the third pin & becoming a useless tool. |
12-03-2015, 02:00 PM | #16 |
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I must be one of the lucky ones, the tool has worked great for me.
I go slow and steady until it "popped" after that they came right out.
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12-03-2015, 03:21 PM | #17 |
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I tried the tool on 3 pins, and it only worked on one.
The other 2 drilled down about 2/3 of the way, then used a pin punch and hammer to remove them. |
12-04-2015, 10:03 AM | #18 |
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There is a big point being missed here.
As this seems to be a restored car the hinge pin should remove easily, using the tool will help protect the paint. The object here is to put a mirror on. Because this is a restored car the pins are removed each year and lubricated. Right? Kinda like changing the oil in the motor? |
12-04-2015, 11:08 AM | #19 |
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All good responses above; and as usual, in any Model A situation, different solutions hardly ever means one person is a magician and the other is not ..... above solutions usually equate to different existing conditions ...... hence, solutions vary; e.g.: 1. Some hinge pins can be removed easily .... some very difficult ...... depends mostly on how many times in 80+ years a door was opened and closed "un-lubricated" causing more wear on one pin than the other ..... hint, hint ..... driver's side compared to rear door of a sedan. 2. In lieu of just driving out a round, rough surfaced rusty pin out of a round, rough surfaced rusty hole, (whether soaked in Kroil for sixteen (16) months and/or heated until red hot every other day for (13) years, or hit with a (40) ton maul), "un-lubricated" well used pins are able to achieve wear and acquire "steps" where they contact the adjacent hinge surfaces. 3. These "worn" circular iron steps on pin surfaces contact iron inner hinge surfaces on the hinge; hence, in some cases, the harder one hits a pin, the higher the iron step becomes ..... drill, hit harder, more Kroil, more heat, buy (75) hinge pin removers ...... depends ???? Just hope this helps the next original Model A door hinge ..... and Model the A owner. Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 12-04-2015 at 11:29 AM. Reason: typo |
12-04-2015, 11:35 AM | #20 |
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Re: Hinge pin removal tool needed
So now that you have the pin out, and you find that the hinge itself needs repairing, there is a repair kit on eBay that should make things easier for you. I haven't used this, but looks like something I would make use of if my hinges were worn to that point.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-MODEL-A...zSq4upN5XLm3rA
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12-04-2015, 11:45 AM | #21 |
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Re: Hinge pin removal tool needed
I removed the 6) hinge screws, and worked the hinge out with the door mostly closed. Then I made an oak block to fit the hinge pretty well, and used a drift punch and a 4 pound hammer, with some oil. This worked very well for me. It did take a little time although. My thought was; if I had to drill out the pin, I could use the drill press. There was no damage to the paint.
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