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06-18-2017, 09:55 PM | #1 |
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170-A/165-B delimma...
In May of 1929, sent the Ford production department the following letter:
Briggs proposed a change in the 2-W design (60-B and C) as Ford visited the Briggs plant to view the new model (170-A). The letter went on to say: “We (Briggs) also showed them (Ford) a two-window job (170-A) of the same general dimensions as the three-window job (165-B). To enable us to put this job into production (the 170-A) at the same time as the three-window job (165-B) it would mean only a small die expense that we agree to absorb, and in view of the fact that it (165-B) would be longer, wider and better appearing than the two-window job (170-A) that we are going into production on this month, we feel that the job (165-B) shown Mr. Ford would be more desirable to you”. Authentically Speaking by George DeAngles and Edward Francis, Model A News Vol. 14, No. 1, p. 6, 1967. So here is the question...was the above statement about the 165-B being "longer and wider" than the 170-A correct? OR...Am I missing something? OR was the 170-A "longer and wider than the 60-B and C body types? Thanks. Pluck |
06-19-2017, 07:39 AM | #2 |
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Re: 170-A/165-B delimma...
??? Jim Langley...
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06-19-2017, 05:26 PM | #3 |
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Re: 170-A/165-B delimma...
I think the 60C (Steelback) is shorter, I have a nice back half and it is easy to measure things if you need me to. Lets use the door jamb to rear glass as the standard measurement. Bob
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06-19-2017, 08:35 PM | #4 |
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Re: 170-A/165-B delimma...
The 60-C (& A, B) are shorter than the 170-A. The attached photo shows a comparison (note the difference in the shape of the rear quarter). As a side note, the best way to tell a 60-A, B, & C from other cars like the 170-A is to look at the bolt hole pattern on the rear of the car where the spare bracket mounts (not the pattern on the carrier where the spare wheel mounts). The 60-A/B/C has a unique 4-bolt rectangular pattern while the others have a 3-bolt triangle.
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06-20-2017, 12:30 AM | #5 |
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Re: 170-A/165-B delimma...
Russ, Could you post the photos in a normal way, I'd like to see them. Bob
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06-20-2017, 08:56 AM | #6 |
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Re: 170-A/165-B delimma...
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Last edited by Russ; 06-20-2017 at 09:25 AM. Reason: Increased resolution of photo. |
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