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Old 05-15-2021, 12:26 PM   #1
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Default Valve lifter bore wear

What is the acceptable valve lifter bore wear (59a Block)?
Inserting new lifters they have a noticeable side to side rock, this can’t be ok for the cam?
Using a valve grinding stem as a gauge some bores are tighter than others.

Are oversized lifters available?

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Old 05-15-2021, 02:41 PM   #2
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What is the acceptable valve lifter bore wear (59a Block)?
Inserting new lifters they have a noticeable side to side rock, this canít be ok for the cam?
Using a valve grinding stem as a gauge some bores are tighter than others.

Are oversized lifters available?

Thanks!
Not sure about oversized lifters, but there are such a thing as lifter bore SLEEVES to stop the WOBBLE.


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Old 05-15-2021, 03:21 PM   #3
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Never heard of an oversize flathead lifter. I can only speak for myself I have never come across a flathead block that had a worn lifter bore. Have you compared the diameter of the lifters to any others just to determine if they might be a bit smaller in diameter? If I read your post correctly you mention some bores are tighter than others if its possible to try original lifters is that still the situation?
On some of my race flathead blocks I use bronze lifter bore bushings which are only a few thousands in diameter larger diameter than the original Ford lifter bore diameter. These new bushings have a smaller inside diameter for the now smaller diameter lifters. To fix a worn flathead lifter bore so the ID is now back to the stock diameter it would be extremely difficult to do in the block. The reaming operation needed to open the existing worn bore would require a larger diameter reamer. Due to the valve guide bore diameter a larger diameter reamer cannot be used for the bushing boring operation from the top. Also the operation needs to be extremely accurate so the lifter bore is still straight. One company BHJ makes tooling for lifter bore bushing operations as seen in V8COOPMANS post above the operation is rather simple to do with there tooling when there's nothing in the way above the bore.
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Old 05-15-2021, 03:36 PM   #4
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Default Re: Valve lifter bore wear

My experience (limited) is that they tend to be on the tight side, rather than loose.
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Same here.
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Agreed, after looking into the bushing process the valve guide bore is only about .030 larger and it wouldn’t work from the top or bottom.
I have not found the factory specs for lifter fit, still looking for a bore gauge to measure a small bore with.

The adjustable lifters I have are NOS Sealed Power, they measure at .985.
What do your lifters measure?
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Agreed, after looking into the bushing process the valve guide bore is only about .030 larger and it wouldnít work from the top or bottom.
I have not found the factory specs for lifter fit, still looking for a bore gauge to measure a small bore with.

The adjustable lifters I have are NOS Sealed Power, they measure at .985.
What do your lifters measure?
Stock lifters are .9995
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Old 05-15-2021, 09:38 PM   #8
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The new Highlift Johnson solid adjustables (PN.2032) I have measure (.9995)
Suspect the ones you have are undersise.
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Old 05-15-2021, 10:47 PM   #9
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I re measured with my new caliper and have the same measurement (added: as post 7 & 8).
With limited options to save a block any thoughts on options?
(Added: I’m getting .995)
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Old 05-15-2021, 10:53 PM   #10
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Default Re: Valve lifter bore wear

Sounds like you need a new set of lifters. Look at it this way : they're a lot cheaper than a new block.
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Old 05-16-2021, 12:54 AM   #11
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The adjustable lifters I have are NOS Sealed Power, they measure at .985.
What do your lifters measure?
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I re measured with my new caliper and have the same measurement.
With limited options to save a block any thoughts on options?
Are you saying that you still get the same (.985) measurement?
If so the remedy should be obvious.
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Old 05-16-2021, 07:39 AM   #12
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I re measured with my new caliper and have the same measurement (added: as post 7 & 8).
With limited options to save a block any thoughts on options?
(Added: Iím getting .995)



Hi, Tim


If you're getting .995 when you measure, your lifters are .005 smaller in diameter than the .999 ( I dropped the "5" from .9995 for clarity sake) the others have mentioned. Is this maybe the problem?



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Old 05-16-2021, 09:36 AM   #13
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Default Re: Valve lifter bore wear

Just checked a new set of adjustable lifters I recently bought from Van Pelts. The lifters measure .9995 on the money and are a nice snug fit in my 8BA block
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Old 05-16-2021, 09:40 AM   #14
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Default Re: Valve lifter bore wear

I would say your new lifters were miss machined or not for a flathead Ford.
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Old 05-18-2021, 05:23 AM   #15
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Default Re: Valve lifter bore wear

The Ford blueprint spells out maximum manufacturing machined diameter of 1.0015. However, the wear limit as listed in the original Ford V8 Engine repair manual is listed as .005 clearance between lifter(pushrod) and lifter bore.

There is no practical limit for machining lifter bores oversize and certainly the valve guide bore diameter does not offer an obstacle. Although the oversize boring operation and subsequent bushing treatment process would be more expensive than the average cylinder block could be valued at.
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