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russcc · 06-09-2019, 06:54 PM

I have a set of NOS water pumps for the 59L with original bushings. I am looking for a source for NOS or NORS sealed bearings to replace the bushings. I would much prefer NOS or NORS stock as it was most likely made in the good old USA vs somewhere. Thank you Fordbarners.

cmbrucew · 06-09-2019, 08:42 PM

Available from your local bearing supply co.
NSK 885586

Bruce

Fordestes · 06-09-2019, 11:06 PM

If your pumps have bushings , I don't think you can put bearings in to replace the bushings , the heavy duty dual belt truck pumps have bearings, the car pumps had bronze bushings, at least the car pumps here in the U.S had bushings till 48 the 49/53 cars and trucks had bearings.

russcc · 06-10-2019, 06:33 PM

Thank you Bruce. I have replaced the bushings with sealed bearings before. I got them from Chuck's Trucks, but not sure of the country of origin. That's why I asked. So the long & short of it is, the job is not a big deal. But I would like to use NOS or NORS bearings.

JWL · 06-11-2019, 05:44 AM

The pump housing for the 59 series roller bearing pump is different from the bushing housing pump. The 59 engines with the roller bearings were typically dual belt pulley truck and Bus engines.

russcc · 06-11-2019, 01:06 PM

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Thanks to John Lawson point, it looks like you may not be able to adapt the sealed bearing assembly to the 59 pump housing. I recently rebuilt wide belt truck pumps for the 8RT. It looks like they will bolt up to the 59 block. I will check to see if they line up with the '40 front pulley on the Merc. crank in the 59 L

G.M. · 06-11-2019, 02:49 PM

Bushings in the Ford pumps are better than bearings. Will
last almost forever and never seize up like bearings. If they are
getting grease or oil the shaft runs on a film of oil and never
touches the bushings. They can wear if the fan belt is over
tight. G,M.

russcc · 06-11-2019, 06:26 PM

Thank you George.

35fordtn · 06-12-2019, 05:20 PM

GM,
Not to argue the point.... but.... If bushings are better do nearly all water pumps in all makes and models from 1950ish newer have bearings?

I can agree a properly maintained and rebuilt (by someone good like skip) original water pump will serve for many years to come with no issues..

Flathead · 06-12-2019, 09:55 PM

Be sure the oil passages in the block are clear so that the bushings get lubricated. Gasket cement and crap often plug them up. You need those double pulley truck pumps if you have to have sealed bearings.

06-09-2019, 06:54 PM	#1
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Sealed water pump bearings I have a set of NOS water pumps for the 59L with original bushings. I am looking for a source for NOS or NORS sealed bearings to replace the bushings. I would much prefer NOS or NORS stock as it was most likely made in the good old USA vs somewhere. Thank you Fordbarners.

06-09-2019, 11:06 PM	#3
Fordestes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 886	Re: Sealed water pump bearings If your pumps have bushings , I don't think you can put bearings in to replace the bushings , the heavy duty dual belt truck pumps have bearings, the car pumps had bronze bushings, at least the car pumps here in the U.S had bushings till 48 the 49/53 cars and trucks had bearings.

06-10-2019, 06:33 PM	#4
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Re: Sealed water pump bearings Thank you Bruce. I have replaced the bushings with sealed bearings before. I got them from Chuck's Trucks, but not sure of the country of origin. That's why I asked. So the long & short of it is, the job is not a big deal. But I would like to use NOS or NORS bearings.

06-11-2019, 05:44 AM	#5
JWL Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fitzgerald, Georgia Posts: 2,204	Re: Sealed water pump bearings The pump housing for the 59 series roller bearing pump is different from the bushing housing pump. The 59 engines with the roller bearings were typically dual belt pulley truck and Bus engines.

06-11-2019, 01:06 PM	#6
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Re: Sealed water pump bearings Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks to John Lawson point, it looks like you may not be able to adapt the sealed bearing assembly to the 59 pump housing. I recently rebuilt wide belt truck pumps for the 8RT. It looks like they will bolt up to the 59 block. I will check to see if they line up with the '40 front pulley on the Merc. crank in the 59 L

06-11-2019, 02:49 PM	#7
G.M. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida and Penna. Posts: 4,471	Re: Sealed water pump bearings Bushings in the Ford pumps are better than bearings. Will last almost forever and never seize up like bearings. If they are getting grease or oil the shaft runs on a film of oil and never touches the bushings. They can wear if the fan belt is over tight. G,M. __________________ www.fordcollector.com

06-11-2019, 06:26 PM	#8
russcc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,871	Re: Sealed water pump bearings Thank you George.

06-12-2019, 05:20 PM	#9
35fordtn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: McMinnville, TN Posts: 2,327	Re: Sealed water pump bearings GM, Not to argue the point.... but.... If bushings are better do nearly all water pumps in all makes and models from 1950ish newer have bearings? I can agree a properly maintained and rebuilt (by someone good like skip) original water pump will serve for many years to come with no issues..

06-12-2019, 09:55 PM	#10
Flathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 1,498	Re: Sealed water pump bearings Be sure the oil passages in the block are clear so that the bushings get lubricated. Gasket cement and crap often plug them up. You need those double pulley truck pumps if you have to have sealed bearings.