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Old 12-23-2014, 10:02 AM   #1
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Thumbs up The Perfect Patina ?

With on a new top, engine rebuild, clean up of the interior this baby would probably draw a larger crowd than almost any other Model A. They're asking $4.5K for it. What do you think?
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:13 AM   #2
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Little too much for me to say perfect. Perfect for me is original paint with wear marks on the window edge from some dudes arm resting and all the wear around the hood hinges and door edges. That thing looks like it sat out and got pretty damaged. Would be an attention getter though.
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:22 AM   #3
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I love it just the way it is. Follow your plan and enjoy!!
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:25 AM   #4
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maybe in Australia,but when I was looking,in the states.$4,500.00 you could get a running car,maybe better overall shape.give him a lowball offer. tom
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:26 AM   #5
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Little too much for me to say perfect. Perfect for me is original paint with wear marks on the window edge from some dudes arm resting and all the wear around the hood hinges and door edges. That thing looks like it sat out and got pretty damaged. Would be an attention getter though.
Yep, I agree !
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:33 AM   #6
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to many $$.
thats called ROTTED patina not natural....

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Old 12-23-2014, 10:38 AM   #7
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I like the piston patina. Does it come with a head?

There is a very rusty Model T that someone near me has that I see at shows. A tree fell on it at one point and that dent is still in the body. It runs great and it gets all the attention at shows. I also think $4,500 is too much. Is that in U.S. $? Offer half that and see what the response is.
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:39 AM   #8
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It looks like a very nice start, It seems like a fair asking price and you don't have to pay any import fees. I do like the original vehicles and the effect of time on them. If it were mine, I would do the repairs to drive safely and a new top along with some period seat covers! Nice Find ! Merry Christmas!!
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:00 AM   #9
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It looks like a very nice start, It seems like a fair asking price and you don't have to pay any import fees. I do like the original vehicles and the effect of time on them. If it were mine, I would do the repairs to drive safely and a new top along with some period seat covers! Nice Find ! Merry Christmas!!
I guess I do not understand the term original. Many items will be replaced but it is to be touted as an original vehicle?? To me it would look like a worn-out 'used car'. I would suspect the brakes, the suspension, the steering, etc. to be in a similar condition as the engine and interior presently are. This is definitely NOT to say someone cannot be proud to own this just as it is!
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:10 PM   #10
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It would be fun to own and show, but I believe it is priced a little high. It will take a lot of bucks to get it where you want it.
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:15 PM   #11
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Fairly low compression the way it is right now.
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:16 PM   #12
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It could be done as you say, and this has some nice parts, like the side strap powerhouse and fan shroud, and that nice aftermarket V belt that sells for big bucks.

Even if you go with your plan, I would drive it for a year or two, then do a complete restoration. It looks like a good solid body to restore. I don't know the prices in your country, but that looks more like a $2,000 car here, or maybe $2,500.
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:24 PM   #13
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I can relate to high asking prices.
A few weeks ago around here there was a house auction with 2 cars, both 1930 Tudors. One was in reasonable condition and ran well. It sold for $12.5K +10 percent buyers premium. The other was pretty worn out with one window missing and brown fenders. To me it looked like a $2K car at most. It sold to a man that the auctioneer said was looking for a project for his kids. $6.5K plus 10 percent looked high to me. A few weeks ago I was driving around and saw the car sitting in front of a restaurant. It sat there for two weeks. A few days ago I was driving around and I saw it at a car lot that specializes in older stuff. I stopped and asked how much? They said $12.5K. I almost choked.

If the car was nearby and I needed it I would offer maybe half of what the owner was asking. If no sale - look on some of the Model A sites for something better.
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:26 PM   #14
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My conculusion is the same as the majority posted above.

IF this is the body style you have always wanted, then $3,500 would be a fair price where I come from (California) and with my 50 years of exposure of buying and selling over 20 Model A's.

This car is going to cost you a bundle of Bucks - either American or Australian - to make it into a decent running and reliable car - not to mention any additional money for cosmetic work to make it something to be proud of.
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:40 PM   #15
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the price is very fair for where you are located........
same car here no more then 3k

if you like it, buy it-wont get another chance!

and yes, it does have a little "extra' patina...................
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:56 PM   #16
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Not much more than a donor car. It does have the fan shroud. Rod
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Old 12-23-2014, 03:00 PM   #17
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Same here. that is not patina that can be oiled over and the mechanicals made safe and driven.

It is too far gone and needs resto .

Is this car in OZ already ?
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Old 12-23-2014, 03:44 PM   #18
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Its looks purdy good and I like em like that !!! The price is way too high for the condition, even if the engine wasn't partly dissassembled
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Old 12-23-2014, 04:07 PM   #19
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Looks like you'd be up for thousands to get this beauty back on the road - the engine and roof shots tell that story. And what other safety/roadworthy issues are hidden under there - steering, brakes, etc? Could be can of worms!

But if you like it (I do!), go for it, but I don't reckon you'll be on the road too quickly!
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Old 12-23-2014, 05:35 PM   #20
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You guys in the States have it much easier than we do in Australia. We get very envious of you when we see what is available over there and at what we consider very reasonable/cheep prices. Anything that sells for $2000 over there would often command $3000/$4000 here, that's just the way it is. (Supply and demand) Finding cars this complete in Australia is quite rare.
I paid $2500 for my Phaeton 25 years ago in similar condition and thought it was a lot of money (and it was), Now the car has done approx 135,000 km and has brought me much joy. I have never regreted my purchase. For me it was $2500 well spent.
However lets not kid ourselves, putting this car on the road will not be a cheep exercise, again here in Aust. restoration cost are much higher than the States.
Bottom line is, if you like what you see and it is what you want I say go ahead and buy it. Yes, try for a lower purchase price (a little haggling will cost you nothing) and may save you a few bucks. Point out to the seller what it will cost you to put it back on the road. Tyres/tubes, paint, upholstery, engine rebuild, new top, brakes, possible Gearbox/Diff rebuild, cooling system etc not to mention the hundreds of hours of work.
Whatever you decide, Good luck and welcome to the world of Model A,s
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