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Lawson Cox · 08-01-2022, 07:52 PM

I'm talking original Henry stuff here, not aftermarket. With that in mind, was there more than one design of the intake manifold on the 60HP? I've seen a couple of photos that look a little different around the area of the fuel pump stand, I think. Or do I need to have my cataracts removed? Well, the other eye at least?

Oh, I'm still looking for the 60HP fan with the 4 1/8" hub.

Thanks, all

cas3 · 08-01-2022, 11:46 PM

I got a 60 intake with a carb on it Lawson, I know nothing about it, but I'll get you a pic tamarra

Fred A · 08-02-2022, 06:57 AM

V8COOPMAN posted a picture last week that included the 1940 version of the V8-60 intake. That version had the breather as part of the intake rather than at the rear of the engine block. The subject of that posting was primarily Stromberg carburetors. Before 1940, there were two aluminum versions and perhaps a seldom seen iron version. Of those aluminum intakes, the subtle difference is the shape of the carb platform, one being more square. Good Luck: Fred A

Lawson Cox · 08-02-2022, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred A

V8COOPMAN posted a picture last week that included the 1940 version of the V8-60 intake. That version had the breather as part of the intake rather than at the rear of the engine block. The subject of that posting was primarily Stromberg carburetors. Before 1940, there were two aluminum versions and perhaps a seldom seen iron version. Of those aluminum intakes, the subtle difference is the shape of the carb platform, one being more square. Good Luck: Fred A

Okay. I found it. That is the picture that peaked my interest initially. That's different than the one on my 39 display engine. Is that a 40 intake?

Fred A · 08-02-2022, 08:39 AM

You found it. Yes, it is the 1940 configuration of the 60 "intake" with the Chandler-Groves style, Model 92 carburetor. You may call it the third or fourth in the evolution. I don't know where the iron verson falls in the lineup if it exists. Fred A

cas3 · 08-02-2022, 01:34 PM

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For Lawson, my barn fresh 60 intake. It came with a bunch of disassembled motors, two tin sides, and one iron block, so I have no idea what it came off of. Anyone know?

Lawson Cox · 08-02-2022, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3

For Lawson, my barn fresh 60 intake. It came with a bunch of disassembled motors, two tin sides, and one iron block, so I have no idea what it came off of. Anyone know?

That is the intake that I am familiar with on the 60HP I'm building. What carburetor is that? I can't make out any numbers. Someone got really fancy with that gas line going from the carburetor to the fuel pump, LOL

I couldn't find an original line to go by, so I formed a rough fuel line and sent it to Michael Driskell at 3rd Generation and he sent me back a great looking line that fits like a T. Thank you Big Time Michael.

petehoovie · 08-02-2022, 04:39 PM

cas3 · 08-02-2022, 04:56 PM

The carb is an 81. I can see it on my picture so I did not mention it.

Kube · 08-02-2022, 09:10 PM

Lawson, This is a 1940 (only) valve chamber cover.
If I recall correctly, you have the correct '39 cover on your engine.

cas3 · 08-02-2022, 09:37 PM

So, in Kube's photo there is a breather tube showing, but none on my intake. How did the motor breath ?

Lawson Cox · 08-02-2022, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3

So, in Kube's photo there is a breather tube showing, but none on my intake. How did the motor breath ?

The long pipe sticking up is the oil fill tube, not a breather. (I hope I'm correct here.)

cas3 · 08-02-2022, 09:50 PM

Its actually both I believe Lawson, but lets hear from some others

V8COOPMAN · 08-02-2022, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3

So, in Kube's photo there is a breather tube showing, but none on my intake. How did the motor breath ?

Voila! Coop

cas3 · 08-02-2022, 10:04 PM

I'm slow coopman, need a better explanation than that !

V8COOPMAN · 08-02-2022, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3

I'm slow coopman, need a better explanation than that !

oops!

V8COOPMAN · 08-02-2022, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3

I'm slow coopman, need a better explanation than that !

I believe the 1940 ONLY blocks had the breather thru the bellhousing. Of course, the intake should be a matching '40 w/out breather provision.

Coop

cas3 · 08-02-2022, 11:16 PM

Excellent. Now I need to see if my iron block has the hole, which it should, 40 only for iron blocks , correct ?

V8COOPMAN · 08-03-2022, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cas3

Excellent. Now I need to see if my iron block has the hole, which it should, 40 only for iron blocks , correct ?

cas....I believe they're all iron, unless you're talking about the "Tin-Side" blocks. I believe all of Ford's tin-sided blocks were from 1937 manufacture. Apparently, an abundance of normal (non-tin-side) blocks was produced 1937 & early '38, such that V8-60 casting was halted until some time in '39 (?) when casting new blocks began again. Then the mods for '40 blocks, until production ceased.

Coop

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Kube · 08-03-2022, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cas3

So, in Kube's photo there is a breather tube showing, but none on my intake. How did the motor breath ?

The valve chamber cover I'd depicted in a previous post is 1940 only. Prior to that, the breather was located in the block.

08-01-2022, 07:52 PM	#1
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	60HP intake(s) ?? I'm talking original Henry stuff here, not aftermarket. With that in mind, was there more than one design of the intake manifold on the 60HP? I've seen a couple of photos that look a little different around the area of the fuel pump stand, I think. Or do I need to have my cataracts removed? Well, the other eye at least? Oh, I'm still looking for the 60HP fan with the 4 1/8" hub. Thanks, all __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

08-01-2022, 11:46 PM	#2
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,577	Re: 60HP intake(s) ?? I got a 60 intake with a carb on it Lawson, I know nothing about it, but I'll get you a pic tamarra

08-02-2022, 06:57 AM	#3
Fred A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Encino California, near Burbank Posts: 935	Re: 60HP intake(s) ?? V8COOPMAN posted a picture last week that included the 1940 version of the V8-60 intake. That version had the breather as part of the intake rather than at the rear of the engine block. The subject of that posting was primarily Stromberg carburetors. Before 1940, there were two aluminum versions and perhaps a seldom seen iron version. Of those aluminum intakes, the subtle difference is the shape of the carb platform, one being more square. Good Luck: Fred A

08-02-2022, 08:39 AM	#5
Fred A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Encino California, near Burbank Posts: 935	Re: 60HP intake(s) ?? You found it. Yes, it is the 1940 configuration of the 60 "intake" with the Chandler-Groves style, Model 92 carburetor. You may call it the third or fourth in the evolution. I don't know where the iron verson falls in the lineup if it exists. Fred A Last edited by Fred A; 08-02-2022 at 08:59 AM.

08-02-2022, 04:39 PM	#8
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,150	Re: 60HP intake(s) ?? __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

08-02-2022, 04:56 PM	#9
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,577	Re: 60HP intake(s) ?? The carb is an 81. I can see it on my picture so I did not mention it.

08-02-2022, 09:37 PM	#11
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,577	Re: 60HP intake(s) ?? So, in Kube's photo there is a breather tube showing, but none on my intake. How did the motor breath ?

08-02-2022, 09:50 PM	#13
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,577	Re: 60HP intake(s) ?? Its actually both I believe Lawson, but lets hear from some others

08-02-2022, 10:04 PM	#15
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,577	Re: 60HP intake(s) ?? I'm slow coopman, need a better explanation than that !

08-02-2022, 11:16 PM	#18
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,577	Re: 60HP intake(s) ?? Excellent. Now I need to see if my iron block has the hole, which it should, 40 only for iron blocks , correct ?