The Ford Barn

vincent · 07-29-2022, 04:51 PM

Went with my 34 Tudor for a nice ride in the backroads of my area. Suddenly a little deer decided to cross the road. I hit the brakes instantly and missed him as he was already over the road when he decided to come back. Accident was unavoidable as he ran directly into me. The grill is smashed in, found the little fellow on the side of the road, willing to run but could not due to his broken back. We phoned the police and when they came they redeemed the poor little deer. Now I will need a new grill as mine will take a long time and lots of work to repair. If anyone has some hints and tips where I should ask, I will be very thankful!
Will add some pics tomorrow.
Harty

cas3 · 07-29-2022, 05:29 PM

Thats some sad news indeed. Bob Drake is no longer making them last I heard, might want to check as his were the best. Some of the hotrod dealers would buy up bunches and then jack up the price when demand allowed. Thats going to a hard thing to find

TJ · 07-29-2022, 05:29 PM

Drake made a new 34 grille. Check with him and if he doesn't have one maybe those that carry Drake parts may have one.

petehoovie · 07-29-2022, 05:55 PM

I don't know how old this add is but it appears to be current. You should check with these guys > https://hotrodoldspeedparts.com/prod...34-ford-grill/

Original 1934 Ford Grill - $2,000.00

Contact Info > https://hotrodoldspeedparts.com/contact-us/

deuce lover · 07-30-2022, 01:34 AM

Vincent,You better get that grill from Hotrodspeedparts if not sold.If not New ones are being made in Australia.Last I checked they were $2400 AUD + $100 AUD shipping to Europe.They are raw w/zinc coating so you will have to have it chromed.PM me if you want their info.

ronn · 07-30-2022, 05:34 AM

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Hope you at least got a venison dinner out of it.......

BlueNotes · 07-30-2022, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by petehoovie

I don't know how old this add is but it appears to be current. You should check with these guys > https://hotrodoldspeedparts.com/prod...34-ford-grill/

Original 1934 Ford Grill - $2,000.00

Contact Info > https://hotrodoldspeedparts.com/contact-us/

I've seen this grille advertised several times on Instagram. Is this vendor legit? There's very limited information about them on their website and the location is only stated as "Los Angeles, CA". Has anyone else here on the Fordbarn done business with them before?

BlueNotes · 07-30-2022, 06:13 AM

I just searched the old classified ads on HAMB and I found the above pictured 34 grille sold 2017 in Engletown, New Jersey for $2500. I can't believe that it's now for sale in Los Angeles for $2000 so be very careful before sending them any money!

Here's the link to that old ad https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-sold.1076179/

Planojc · 07-30-2022, 08:29 AM

Without a photo it's hard to tell if yours can be repaired, but that may be a cheaper and better option.

vincent · 07-30-2022, 12:08 PM

I will definitely repair my grille but it will need a rechrome so this will take a lot of time. To get the car back on the road I prefer to have a suitable grille that is ready to install.

Krylon32 · 07-30-2022, 12:18 PM

I have had Andy's Restoration in St. Libory NE. repair several 32 inserts for me and I've seen some 33 and 34 grilles he's saved. Don't know if he's still doing them but it's worth a call.

deuce lover · 07-30-2022, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylon32

I have had Andy's Restoration in St. Libory NE. repair several 32 inserts for me and I've seen some 33 and 34 grilles he's saved. Don't know if he's still doing them but it's worth a call.

The OP is in Germany.More cost effective to find someone in Europe IMO.

vincent · 08-03-2022, 08:23 AM

Here are the promised pics. The grille was dented on friday night, sunday I started working on it and on tuesday the car was ready to go again. Needs a bit of copperspray here and there and a rechrome but at least summer season is not lost.

Planojc · 08-03-2022, 08:39 AM

Good job, looks great.

Robert/Texas · 08-03-2022, 09:03 AM

I was in the army, stationed in the Pfalz back in the 1950's. I remember that the deer were tiny compared to the ones we have in Texas. I also remember that they had some big rabbits there. You did a great job repairing that grill.

V8COOPMAN · 08-03-2022, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincent

Here are the promised pics. The grille was dented on friday night, sunday I started working on it and on tuesday the car was ready to go again. Needs a bit of copperspray here and there and a rechrome but at least summer season is not lost.

Dayim....That is brilliant what you have accomplished there. Beautiful work!

Coop

petehoovie · 08-03-2022, 12:45 PM

Is that a 'right hand' drive car? In Germany?...

Mart · 08-03-2022, 12:58 PM

Good job on the grille straightening.

vincent · 08-03-2022, 03:25 PM

Yep, its RH steering and as far as I could find out the car was built like that in Argentina. I found several imprints and markings on various parts with "Industria Argentina" so that leads me to believe it started is 88 years ongoing yourney there. I was not able to find out when it was imported to Germany.

Robert/Texas · 08-03-2022, 05:14 PM

That’s interesting Vincent.

I believe that my ’34 roadster was built in Germany or some other part of Europe for the following reasons:

It came out of a European car museum in Houston, Texas. The museum closed in the early 1990’s after the owner died. It was titled to the estate of the museum owner when I bought it although the heir’s husband had been using it for about three years.

It has a January 1934 serial number which appears on the top of the frame, near the steering box and on the clutch cover. The serial numbers have a 48 prefix, not the 18 prefix that the American models have.

The emergency brake system is separated from the service brake system. There are four rear brake rods.

The bumpers are 1933 style as is the cowl air vent. The rest of the car is 1934 style.

It has 9/37 (4/11) rear axle gears, so it probably came from a mountainous area.

A home-made appearing copper plaque is riveted on the firewall which I assume was done when the car was exported. It is stamped with the serial number less the stars and the prefix.

Although the speedometer registers in miles it looks like it had been replaced at some time.

Our 1934 Fords have really gotten around.

07-29-2022, 04:51 PM	#1
vincent Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 204	where to get a new grill for my 34 Went with my 34 Tudor for a nice ride in the backroads of my area. Suddenly a little deer decided to cross the road. I hit the brakes instantly and missed him as he was already over the road when he decided to come back. Accident was unavoidable as he ran directly into me. The grill is smashed in, found the little fellow on the side of the road, willing to run but could not due to his broken back. We phoned the police and when they came they redeemed the poor little deer. Now I will need a new grill as mine will take a long time and lots of work to repair. If anyone has some hints and tips where I should ask, I will be very thankful! Will add some pics tomorrow. Harty

07-29-2022, 05:29 PM	#2
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,577	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 Thats some sad news indeed. Bob Drake is no longer making them last I heard, might want to check as his were the best. Some of the hotrod dealers would buy up bunches and then jack up the price when demand allowed. Thats going to a hard thing to find

07-29-2022, 05:29 PM	#3
TJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Napa,California Posts: 6,037	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 Drake made a new 34 grille. Check with him and if he doesn't have one maybe those that carry Drake parts may have one.

07-29-2022, 05:55 PM	#4
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,147	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 I don't know how old this add is but it appears to be current. You should check with these guys > https://hotrodoldspeedparts.com/prod...34-ford-grill/ Original 1934 Ford Grill - $2,000.00 Contact Info > https://hotrodoldspeedparts.com/contact-us/ __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

07-30-2022, 01:34 AM	#5
deuce lover Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern France Posts: 5,307	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 Vincent,You better get that grill from Hotrodspeedparts if not sold.If not New ones are being made in Australia.Last I checked they were $2400 AUD + $100 AUD shipping to Europe.They are raw w/zinc coating so you will have to have it chromed.PM me if you want their info.

07-30-2022, 05:34 AM	#6
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,790	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Hope you at least got a venison dinner out of it.......

07-30-2022, 06:13 AM	#8
BlueNotes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Land of the Midnight Sun Posts: 157	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 I just searched the old classified ads on HAMB and I found the above pictured 34 grille sold 2017 in Engletown, New Jersey for $2500. I can't believe that it's now for sale in Los Angeles for $2000 so be very careful before sending them any money! Here's the link to that old ad https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-sold.1076179/

07-30-2022, 08:29 AM	#9
Planojc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 847	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 Without a photo it's hard to tell if yours can be repaired, but that may be a cheaper and better option.

07-30-2022, 12:08 PM	#10
vincent Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 204	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 I will definitely repair my grille but it will need a rechrome so this will take a lot of time. To get the car back on the road I prefer to have a suitable grille that is ready to install.

07-30-2022, 12:18 PM	#11
Krylon32 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,484	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 I have had Andy's Restoration in St. Libory NE. repair several 32 inserts for me and I've seen some 33 and 34 grilles he's saved. Don't know if he's still doing them but it's worth a call.

08-03-2022, 08:39 AM	#14
Planojc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 847	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 Good job, looks great.

08-03-2022, 09:03 AM	#15
Robert/Texas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Burton, Texas Posts: 681	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 I was in the army, stationed in the Pfalz back in the 1950's. I remember that the deer were tiny compared to the ones we have in Texas. I also remember that they had some big rabbits there. You did a great job repairing that grill. Last edited by Robert/Texas; 08-03-2022 at 09:04 AM. Reason: add

08-03-2022, 12:45 PM	#17
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,147	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 Is that a 'right hand' drive car? In Germany?... __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

08-03-2022, 12:58 PM	#18
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,755	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 Good job on the grille straightening.

08-03-2022, 03:25 PM	#19
vincent Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 204	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 Yep, its RH steering and as far as I could find out the car was built like that in Argentina. I found several imprints and markings on various parts with "Industria Argentina" so that leads me to believe it started is 88 years ongoing yourney there. I was not able to find out when it was imported to Germany.

08-03-2022, 05:14 PM	#20
Robert/Texas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Burton, Texas Posts: 681	Re: where to get a new grill for my 34 That’s interesting Vincent. I believe that my ’34 roadster was built in Germany or some other part of Europe for the following reasons: It came out of a European car museum in Houston, Texas. The museum closed in the early 1990’s after the owner died. It was titled to the estate of the museum owner when I bought it although the heir’s husband had been using it for about three years. It has a January 1934 serial number which appears on the top of the frame, near the steering box and on the clutch cover. The serial numbers have a 48 prefix, not the 18 prefix that the American models have. The emergency brake system is separated from the service brake system. There are four rear brake rods. The bumpers are 1933 style as is the cowl air vent. The rest of the car is 1934 style. It has 9/37 (4/11) rear axle gears, so it probably came from a mountainous area. A home-made appearing copper plaque is riveted on the firewall which I assume was done when the car was exported. It is stamped with the serial number less the stars and the prefix. Although the speedometer registers in miles it looks like it had been replaced at some time. Our 1934 Fords have really gotten around.