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Garageguy · 09-24-2023, 12:55 AM

Hello I just got this transmission , but do the gears look like there in the correct order ?

petehoovie · 09-24-2023, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Garageguy

Hello I just got this transmission , but do the gears look like there in the correct order ?

Brian · 09-24-2023, 01:37 AM

Yeah, but the synchro sleeve appears to be too far back into 2nd gear

Terry,OH · 09-24-2023, 07:22 AM

Yes in the correct order, the large gear on the rear is 1-R the syncro is 2 rearward and 3 forward. Yes the syncro outer sleeve is too far rearward. It appears the fordward 3 blocker ring is too close to the 2nd gear teeth, there should be a space between about a dime to a nickle thickness width. This gives the impression the transmission should be taken apart and checked over.

Garageguy · 09-24-2023, 03:13 PM

Ok so when I got the box it was a greasy mess so had it tank cleaned, so was it used incorrectly or maybe it wasn’t used. If I strip it what am I looking for?

cas3 · 09-24-2023, 06:03 PM

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I suggest you buy the book by Mac Vanpelt on Ford transmissions

38 coupe · 09-24-2023, 06:47 PM

The book suggested above, which is a very good source of information for these transmissions: http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...trans-book.htm

Seth Swoboda · 09-25-2023, 11:09 AM

Like the others have said. Get Van Pelts book. Take that transmisison apart, inspect and reassemble. I never trust any work by an unknown person.

Garageguy · 09-26-2023, 12:20 AM

Brilliant will do, thanks for the help as always.

svm99 · 09-27-2023, 11:06 AM

Before disassembling the transmission be sure it has a ujoint installed which pulls the mainshaft to the rear, shift the synchro hub to nuetral, check the end play of the second gear between the rear thrust washer and 2nd or the the 16 helical splines and 2nd, Ford spec is .004"-.008". Also the 3rd gear synchro ring may have ample clearance after a ujoint is installed(if not currently present).

If neither of these suggestions change the clearances then the transmission should be disassembled.
Good luck, Paul J

09-24-2023, 01:37 AM	#3
Brian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Masterton, New Zealand Posts: 3,834	Re: Toploader transmission Yeah, but the synchro sleeve appears to be too far back into 2nd gear __________________ Unfortunately, two half wits don't make a whole wit!

09-24-2023, 07:22 AM	#4
Terry,OH Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,751	Re: Toploader transmission Yes in the correct order, the large gear on the rear is 1-R the syncro is 2 rearward and 3 forward. Yes the syncro outer sleeve is too far rearward. It appears the fordward 3 blocker ring is too close to the 2nd gear teeth, there should be a space between about a dime to a nickle thickness width. This gives the impression the transmission should be taken apart and checked over.

09-24-2023, 03:13 PM	#5
Garageguy Junior Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: New Zealand Posts: 16	Re: Toploader transmission Ok so when I got the box it was a greasy mess so had it tank cleaned, so was it used incorrectly or maybe it wasn’t used. If I strip it what am I looking for?

09-24-2023, 06:03 PM	#6
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,578	Re: Toploader transmission Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I suggest you buy the book by Mac Vanpelt on Ford transmissions

09-24-2023, 06:47 PM	#7
38 coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Texas Posts: 1,631	Re: Toploader transmission The book suggested above, which is a very good source of information for these transmissions: http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...trans-book.htm

09-25-2023, 11:09 AM	#8
Seth Swoboda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 3,795	Re: Toploader transmission Like the others have said. Get Van Pelts book. Take that transmisison apart, inspect and reassemble. I never trust any work by an unknown person.

09-26-2023, 12:20 AM	#9
Garageguy Junior Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: New Zealand Posts: 16	Re: Toploader transmission Brilliant will do, thanks for the help as always.

09-27-2023, 11:06 AM	#10
svm99 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Garlic Country of CA Posts: 537	Re: Toploader transmission Before disassembling the transmission be sure it has a ujoint installed which pulls the mainshaft to the rear, shift the synchro hub to nuetral, check the end play of the second gear between the rear thrust washer and 2nd or the the 16 helical splines and 2nd, Ford spec is .004"-.008". Also the 3rd gear synchro ring may have ample clearance after a ujoint is installed(if not currently present). If neither of these suggestions change the clearances then the transmission should be disassembled. Good luck, Paul J