Hidden water pump bolt/ 8BA

[Ronnie]

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

Perhaps you should have read post#2. Is that close enough to the beginning?

You got that rite 51
39 posts later and we still don't have it out yet.Monday morning quarterbacks omg now what."Really" wtf break that bolt off and start a new thread and learn how to remove a broken bolt. "LOL"

R

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by Ronnie

You got that rite 51
39 posts later and we still don't have it out yet.Monday morning quarterbacks omg now what."Really" wtf break that bolt off and start a new thread and learn how to remove a broken bolt. "LOL"

R

Ronnie NAILED IT!

[JSeery]

Apparently some people are FAR more patient than I am! No way I would spend more than half a day taking an engine apart. It would come apart one way or the other in my hands!!

[Binx]

Guys, it's an installed engine in his garage. He just wants to change his water pumps. Let's help him do that without the cost of to-and-from tow with machine shop in-between or even mobile welding service. Geeze!

Lonnie

[Ronnie]

Well Binx tell how you would fix it? What magic potion do you recommend?
"Just sayin"

R

[petehoovie]

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Originally Posted by Binx

Guys, it's an installed engine in his garage. He just wants to change his water pumps. Let's help him do that without the cost of to-and-from tow with machine shop in-between or even mobile welding service. Geeze!

Lonnie

Lonnie - With the engine installed, I wonder how he was able to take the pictures as seen in his post #1. It must be that the radiator is removed? If this is the case, then I don't see any difference with the engine being in or out of the truck - seems that access to the bolt would be the about same....

[Ronnie]

None of this changes anything the pump must come off.
What is so hard about that?

R

[Binx]

I think he's on the right track with a rattle gun and tight socket. I'd use only an impact socket because of the added flyweight and grind the nose of the socket flat for max contact.

Lonnie

[jimvette59]

Drill the head off , take the pump off and use a vice grip to remove the threaded portion of the bolt.

[Jack E/NJ]

Binx>>>nose of the socket flat>>>

What's a socket-flat nose look like?

Jack E/NJ

[Binx]

Originally Posted by Jack E/NJ

Binx>>>nose of the socket flat>>>

What's a socket-flat nose look like?

Jack E/NJ

Crap! The semantics police have caught me.

Let me start again....

Grind the terminal HEXAGON wall opening of the socket perpendicular to the HEXAGON internal sidewall to eliminate any radius or chamfer to ensure maximum sidewall contact with fastener (bolt).

how'z that?

Lonnie

[Lanny]

Lonnie, a picture is worth a thousand words.



Click on picture to Enlarge.

[Binx]

Thanks Lanny!

Lonnie

[Mart]

Good call on the socket grinding, some of the el cheapos have a very pronounced chamfer.

Mart.

[Ronnie]

Bump to top it has been 10 days surely there must be an outcome??

R

[41LjH]

Originally Posted by banjoQ

Well, it sounds. like I am on the right track. There is a chance the pumps are OK but as difficult as it was to get the radiator out, I would be a fool not to replace them. New ones are not that expensive and have improved bearings. The radiator on the other hand is going to hurt. I've priced out getting a catalog new one that I will have to retrofit or recore the one I have and it's about the same. After shipping a new one is about $750 and recoreing is about the same. I would rather give my money to a man who runs a small business locally than a catalog. That's me. I going to have to put on the big boy pants and get those bolts out so I can move on with the project. I miss driving the truck.
Lonnie, the media makes it look worse than it really is. There are a few properties that just might go into the water sooner or later. But it has been going on for years. Thirty years ago there were bluffs as big as football fields behind those buildings. Years of pounding surf has taken its toll and now there is nothing left. They are empty now so no one is at risk, thank goodness. Glad you enjoy our little town, it's a well kept secret

Check ebay for a aluminum offshore unit. Unless you'r a puriest that's the way to go.

[banjoQ]

Sorry boys, been real busy with work. Sometimes being self employed has its drawbacks. Here's the update- pumps came off, but not without a fight. One came out on its own with heat and a hammer. The other broke off at the head of the bolt. Got the pump off and then went to work on what was left of the bolt. New ones from Speedway and the radiator was recored by a shop in San Carlos. NFI here, but Howard Radiator is the only shop on the Peninsula that works on them anymore. These guys are very familiar with the old Fords and other makes. Their parking lot looked like a fantasy used car lot to me. High quality workmanship , a bit pricey. "If your gonna play, your gonna pay". Money well spent, won't have to do it again. Trying to get new stats from All Ford in Campbell. Dropped by last week and ordered them. Should be in today or tomorrow. With luck, I should be driving the Ol' Blue truck by Saturday.
Thanks again to all that weighed in on this problem. Your patience with me is greatly appreciated. Its kind of hard to make headway on a project by grabbing an hour here and there. But you know that , I'm sure. Thnx, Q

[29AVEE8]

Did you get the broken bolt out?

[banjoQ]

Yup, it came out much easier with the pump out of the way. Able to apply heat directly to the area. Cleaned up the threads and put the new ones in. Going to pick up the thermostats tomorrow and start putting back together.

[29AVEE8]

Well done.