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'31 Patina · 04-10-2011, 09:06 PM

I just installed new rear brakes on my '31 coupe. I can't get the drum to go back on. The adjusting wedge is turned all the way out.

I did a search on previous posts about this problem and some guys talk about sanding the shoes or grinding a little bit off the adjusting shafts.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you.

Mike V. Florida · 04-10-2011, 10:32 PM

It seems that the lining on the shoes are a little thick to overcome well used drums. Once you get new drums and the specs are as new the thicker linings get in the way.

So you need to either sand the shoes or grind down the shafts to bake them work.

john in illinois · 04-11-2011, 06:51 AM

Did you put on new emergency brake linings? Often they are too thick and need to be sanded thinner. If you took off the emergency bands and tried the drum,that would tell you which linings were the problem.

'31 Patina · 04-11-2011, 08:09 AM

I tried putting the drum on without the emergency brake bands so it must be the brake linings that are a little too thick. I'll try sanding them down a bit to see if that works.

V4F · 04-11-2011, 08:10 AM

are the shoes fitted to the drums prior to installation ? i fit mine by grinding the ends a lil . i also bevel the outside edge so the drum fits ez . the e brake is also a problem , so bevel them also ............. steve

SGT in Ont. · 04-11-2011, 08:15 AM

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Did you measure the drums after swedging them to the hub? Some drums have to be turned to get them to the proper diameter.

Jim Parker Toronto · 04-11-2011, 08:23 AM

Patina 31, if you have had your shoes ARCHED, do not grind any more off the shoes. You just paid good money for linings, why grind it away. First, check the adjusters and make sure you are sitting in the groove, and not the high part of the adjuster. Just give it a little turn to set them. If the drum will still not go on, then grind the adjusting shafts down a little, but be sure to do each side the same! This would be not as critical for length if you are using Ted's stuff. Don't forget to bevel the ends of the shoes a little.

latecomer · 04-11-2011, 08:34 AM

Just a wild idea on my part but i just put new brakes on mine couldnt get the drums to slide on completly. It was my key the key would slide forward jus enough to hold the drum out.I had to push the key in with a punch , then the drum went right in.

banjobrad · 04-13-2011, 07:10 AM

Are the shoes centered?

B.G.

'31 Patina · 04-13-2011, 12:34 PM

Since I'm having my drums turned I'm also going to have the shoes arched at the same time. Hopefully that will solve the problem. I will double check that the adjusting shafts are not on the high part of the adjuster; I just backed the adjusters all the way out and didn't even think to look to see where the shaft was actaully sitting on the adjuster.

I will let everyone know what I find out once I get the drums and brakes back.

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Originally Posted by Jim Parker Toronto

Patina 31, if you have had your shoes ARCHED, do not grind any more off the shoes. You just paid good money for linings, why grind it away. First, check the adjusters and make sure you are sitting in the groove, and not the high part of the adjuster. Just give it a little turn to set them. If the drum will still not go on, then grind the adjusting shafts down a little, but be sure to do each side the same! This would be not as critical for length if you are using Ted's stuff. Don't forget to bevel the ends of the shoes a little.

Robert Winston · 04-13-2011, 06:15 PM

Just replaced my rear shoes , had to grind 1/16 off the brake Adjusting shafts.

Make sure you do both sides the same.

04-10-2011, 09:06 PM	#1
'31 Patina Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Rosemount, MN Posts: 228	Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit I just installed new rear brakes on my '31 coupe. I can't get the drum to go back on. The adjusting wedge is turned all the way out. I did a search on previous posts about this problem and some guys talk about sanding the shoes or grinding a little bit off the adjusting shafts. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.

04-10-2011, 10:32 PM	#2
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit It seems that the lining on the shoes are a little thick to overcome well used drums. Once you get new drums and the specs are as new the thicker linings get in the way. So you need to either sand the shoes or grind down the shafts to bake them work. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

04-11-2011, 06:51 AM	#3
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,184	Re: Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit Did you put on new emergency brake linings? Often they are too thick and need to be sanded thinner. If you took off the emergency bands and tried the drum,that would tell you which linings were the problem.

04-11-2011, 08:09 AM	#4
'31 Patina Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Rosemount, MN Posts: 228	Re: Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit I tried putting the drum on without the emergency brake bands so it must be the brake linings that are a little too thick. I'll try sanding them down a bit to see if that works.

04-11-2011, 08:10 AM	#5
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit are the shoes fitted to the drums prior to installation ? i fit mine by grinding the ends a lil . i also bevel the outside edge so the drum fits ez . the e brake is also a problem , so bevel them also ............. steve __________________ V4f

04-11-2011, 08:15 AM	#6
SGT in Ont. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Milton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 101	Re: Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Did you measure the drums after swedging them to the hub? Some drums have to be turned to get them to the proper diameter.

04-11-2011, 08:23 AM	#7
Jim Parker Toronto Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,289	Re: Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit Patina 31, if you have had your shoes ARCHED, do not grind any more off the shoes. You just paid good money for linings, why grind it away. First, check the adjusters and make sure you are sitting in the groove, and not the high part of the adjuster. Just give it a little turn to set them. If the drum will still not go on, then grind the adjusting shafts down a little, but be sure to do each side the same! This would be not as critical for length if you are using Ted's stuff. Don't forget to bevel the ends of the shoes a little.

04-11-2011, 08:34 AM	#8
latecomer Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Trumbull, CT Posts: 134	Re: Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit Just a wild idea on my part but i just put new brakes on mine couldnt get the drums to slide on completly. It was my key the key would slide forward jus enough to hold the drum out.I had to push the key in with a punch , then the drum went right in.

04-13-2011, 07:10 AM	#9
banjobrad Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47	Re: Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit Are the shoes centered? B.G.

04-13-2011, 06:15 PM	#11
Robert Winston Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Franklin tn Posts: 8	Re: Rear Brake Drums Don't Fit Just replaced my rear shoes , had to grind 1/16 off the brake Adjusting shafts. Make sure you do both sides the same.