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Old 09-02-2022, 04:28 PM   #1
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I need your help, I want to attach a trailer hitch to my Model A Tudor. In order to get this approved by the German TÜV, I need old documents that show a towing capacity for the Model A. As well as a support load. Old documents on towbars would also be good. I don't think there is such a thing, but I'm not giving up hope that someone here still has old documents and prospects.
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Old 09-02-2022, 05:11 PM   #2
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Show them this.
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:49 AM   #3
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buy them a beer..........
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Old 09-03-2022, 10:55 AM   #4
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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...7&d=1662156663
I'll but that's fun to "try" and stop on a good downgrade
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Old 09-03-2022, 03:55 PM   #5
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Show them this.
Take a look at the rear axle under that coupe. It's not original! The car was considerably beefed up to be able to pull that trailer. I read a detailed article awhile back but can't remember where I saw it. As I recall, the trailer axle had vacuum actuated brakes.
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Take a look at the rear axle under that coupe. It's not original! The car was considerably beefed up to be able to pull that trailer. I read a detailed article awhile back but can't remember where I saw it. As I recall, the trailer axle had vacuum actuated brakes.

I couldn't find the original article either, I think it had an AA rear axle.
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Old 09-03-2022, 05:40 PM   #7
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Good luck with the TÜV!

Here's an era photo of a Roadster pulling a camping trailer if that may help:


....and the original magazine advertisement for the trailer:


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Old 09-05-2022, 05:06 PM   #8
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Thanks for the efforts. based on pictures I was able to convince the TÜV to even think about it. The problem is that they want technical data for everything because nobody wants to take responsibility. Because they're afraid it won't last. They just hide behind regulations and say it wouldn't work without technical data. if i could convince the tüv of the towing capacity by means of technical data i would be one step further. An attempt would be, for example, if there were a weight in the prospect of the caravan. From this one could deduce what load the A could at least pull.
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Old 09-05-2022, 05:32 PM   #9
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https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Eccles_(Birmingham)
The horse float has to carry the weight of a horse.
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Old 09-05-2022, 06:00 PM   #10
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I couldn't find the original article either, I think it had an AA rear axle.
Here's a link to an article that was in Hemmings:

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/201...custom-trailer
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Old 09-06-2022, 07:47 AM   #11
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tag it in America and run it in Germany..........!
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Old 09-06-2022, 12:46 PM   #12
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Here's mine:
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Old 09-06-2022, 02:36 PM   #13
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Check this out. It is on another forum but has information on manufactured trailer hitches for Model A's

https://www.vintagefordforum.net/for...o-a-1929-tudor
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Old 09-06-2022, 02:40 PM   #14
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For some reason the whole thread address did not post. This should work.

https://www.vintagefordforum.net/for...o-a-1929-tudor
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Old 09-06-2022, 02:52 PM   #15
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You are really great what you find on the net. It's all very interesting and helps me to prove that there were trailer hitches on the A back then. But it's not really what I need to prove the weight the A can pull. You might find something else. I've been looking for a long time and just can't find anything that really helps me. I also just want to add a little hanger like CarlG. I don't want to carry out such a conversion effort with a rear axle from the AA as in the article by Randy the trailer is probably a bit oversized ;-)
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Old 09-06-2022, 02:55 PM   #16
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For some reason the whole thread address did not post. This should work.

https://www.vintagefordforum.net/for...o-a-1929-tudor
Thanks, I'll read through it

Another piece of the puzzle on my way. thanks very interesting. Above all, the instructions for building a trailer hitch in the further link. I'm not where I need to be yet, but I'm a little further along.

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Old 09-06-2022, 07:31 PM   #17
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There is a website that sells (among other things) trailer hitches. I have bought other things from them in the past with no problem. Some of the hitches listed indicate the maximum towing weight and tongue weight. For example, one specifies a weight capacity of 2000 lbs and tongue weight of 200 lbs. (You will probably have to convert that to kilos for Germany). Below is the text for one of the hitches on the website:

CURT®
Class 1 1-1/4" Drop / 5/8" Rise Ball Mount for 1-1/4" Receivers
18# 2154922
Universal Class 1 1-1/4" Drop / 5/8" Rise Black Powder Coat Ball Mount for 1-1/4" Receivers by CURT®. Weight Capacity: 2000 lbs GTW / 200 lbs TW. Ball Hole: 3/4". CURT class 1 ball mounts are designed for a variety of lightweight towing...
more details on - https://www.carid.com/1930-ford-mode...ailer-hitches/


I hope that helps you with the technical details.
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Old 09-07-2022, 10:14 PM   #18
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....still not the towing capacity of the Ford Model A, but here is an era advertisement for a trailer hitch bracket for the Model A:



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Not sure if this will help.....here is an era photo of a Tudor pulling a trailer-mounted Ford powered generator:



.....or maybe this era document showing some power capacity information about the Ford Model A and AF engines:


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Old 09-07-2022, 11:23 PM   #20
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Here is another era photo of a German 1930 Ford Model A Tudor towing a trailer:



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