06-18-2018, 02:34 PM | #1 |
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276 or 284
I have the parts, but is the extra 8 CI worth the additional work and expense, just wondering. Jim
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06-18-2018, 02:36 PM | #2 |
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Re: 276 or 284
Yes.
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06-18-2018, 03:01 PM | #3 |
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Re: 276 or 284
Bigger is better
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06-18-2018, 03:08 PM | #4 |
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It depends what the expense is to get only 8 more cubic inches. Would probably compute to less than 4 more HP.(unless super charged or turbo charged).
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06-18-2018, 03:15 PM | #5 |
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Re: 276 or 284
When someone driving a 4 cyl. car displacing less than one half the cubic inches, blows your doors off, then ask yourself the question.
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06-18-2018, 03:51 PM | #6 |
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06-18-2018, 07:42 PM | #7 |
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I have my doubts that you will see any difference in performance because of the 8 cubic inches. If it's a lot more money for those 8, I would pass on it.
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06-18-2018, 07:58 PM | #8 |
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Go big or go home !!
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06-18-2018, 08:23 PM | #9 |
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Well, you said you had the parts . . . so I don't see a cost issue.
A 276 is a 4" stroke crank with a 3 5/16 bore. A 284 is a 4 1/8" stroke crank with a 3 5/16 bore . . . so the bore is the same on both. If you already have a 4 1/8" stroke crank and the correct rods, might as well go to 284. Where the complexity/cost can come into play is if you don't have the correct rods/bearings for the smaller journals and also need to offset grind a 4" Merc crank to a small-journal 4 1/8" stroke setup. You can build a 276" engine with a basic 4" stroke 49-53 Merc crank and use the late 49-53 rods. You'll not need to go the "traditional" 91A/21A rods with full-floating bearings or aftermarket H-beam rods . . . and you won't have to offset grind the crank. A rough guess is that this will save you about $1000. Now, if you buy an aftermarket 4 1/8" stroker crank and it is setup for the larger journals (49-53 rods), then this is not a bad way to go either (except the cost of the crank and the balancing required). Bearings are super cheap (insert bearings) and you'll not have to fuss with full-floater rod bearing setup/sizing. Most "modern" machine shops have never setup/ran full-floater bearings . . . they have no clue as to what they're all about. Lots of ways to skin the flathead cat! It usually comes down to time and money . . . B&S |
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I go with B&S, but the 276 is much cheaper
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06-18-2018, 10:37 PM | #11 |
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Jim, you worked all of your life to have fun in the retired mode so you need to get "in" the retired mode. When you build flatheads, you spend everything you have coming in, less 10% to live on just like we did back when we were racing for a living.
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06-19-2018, 11:23 AM | #12 |
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Well I guess I misled everyone. I have a 4" crank that wil needl offset grinding but have everything else so I will go with the 284 after all, Thanks to everyone for your response. Jim
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06-19-2018, 11:32 AM | #13 |
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I went 284 on my rebuild, with a Schneider 248f cam, which has a really strong low end. Running 3.27 rear end and never a doubt about having enough low end torque, even starting on steep hills.
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06-19-2018, 11:59 AM | #14 |
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Go with all the gusto you can get. Like the old saying goes, there is no replacement for displacement.
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The bigger the engine, the lower the RPM for peak power, due to the restrictive port flow, so you have to cam and gear accordingly.
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