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01-25-2015, 10:00 AM | #41 | |
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01-25-2015, 10:04 AM | #42 | |
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01-25-2015, 10:09 AM | #43 |
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Did y'all look on Facebook in the Model-A sites for these 'merge wishers'?
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01-25-2015, 10:21 AM | #44 |
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01-25-2015, 10:27 AM | #45 |
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Fred now I know there are TWO of us in this great land who think the same. I refuse to belong to that worthless drama crap too.
CTPVA posted this question some time back. Guess the winter days are getting long Neat to get a nice magazine every month in the mail. When I only belonged to MAFCA had to wait two months in between. Choices are a good thing. |
01-25-2015, 10:32 AM | #46 | |
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01-25-2015, 10:39 AM | #47 |
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Make it three....I don't Facebook, Tweet or even Text. My cell is on for emergencies only when I'm away from home, my daughters insist. I guess they think I'm getting old.
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01-25-2015, 10:54 AM | #48 |
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FWIW: Always good to air out opinions with civility.
I feel both of these great Model A organizations are exercising their God given rights in what was once the only "United" States in this World ........ quite an experiment for Free Enterprise, Religious Freedom & Capitalism that worked well in the past when every individual was busy working for what they had. Anybody remember these days gone by ...... when all bodies & minds were occupied with work ..... very few gangs with idle minds resorting to stealing & murder to get more drugs; hence, crime & looting was almost non-existent. I prefer to use most of my free time fighting & encouraging citizens to think before they vote -- these two (2) Model A Clubs will never have intentions to punish my grandchildren with more higher taxes to create more of our present U. S. idle welfare bum citizen leeches. And ............. laws were not passed to force these (2) clubs to merge ........ as of yet. Appears to be a matter of individual different priorities. Last edited by H. L. Chauvin; 01-25-2015 at 11:14 AM. Reason: typo |
01-25-2015, 11:23 AM | #49 |
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To my way of thinking it's which mag you like.
If you want both join both. Other than that you get little or nothing out of either one. |
01-25-2015, 11:37 AM | #50 |
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01-25-2015, 11:44 AM | #51 |
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In my opinion, just like people on Model A Forums, members of these (2) organizations do what they do because they enjoy what they do & try to help others.
No doubt there are far better ways to get rich than trying to run a Model A Club .... like maybe collecting cow manure & selling it to Walmart in (5) pounds bags .... but that is not as much fun. |
01-25-2015, 12:42 PM | #52 | |
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01-25-2015, 02:26 PM | #53 |
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I merged nearly 45 years ago
I belong to both clubs and dont see a problem i enjoy both magazines,i attend both meets its just like buying national Time magazine and newsweek they both have news in them ,but its a different slant how about buying a newspaper and watching the news on TV if it aint broke why fix it? tom |
01-25-2015, 02:33 PM | #54 |
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I dont belong to either club as there is no local model A club where I live. I think the closes one is 2 hours away. The Beaver in Portland and I live in Astoria
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01-25-2015, 02:37 PM | #55 | |
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01-25-2015, 02:48 PM | #56 |
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Whoever believes this is ever going to happen soon is smoking something that is illeagle in most states.
I don't have a horse in this race as I currently do not belong to either club. I have belonged to both clubs in the past and the current 2 club system seems to work out well for now. However in the next 20 years I believe membership numbers will force the combining of the clubs. I hope I am wrong, but trends seem to suggest it. Rod
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01-25-2015, 03:04 PM | #57 |
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It appears that most in favor of combining the two clubs do not belong to either. Am I wrong regarding this?
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01-25-2015, 03:09 PM | #58 |
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MARC revoked our club as there were not enough members in it that belonged to MARC. Our club in unifiliated and has more flathead Fords and muscle cars than A's at this point. One of the many challanges for a club in a sparsely populated aree. Rod
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01-25-2015, 04:08 PM | #59 |
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Off and on since 1962, I have been a member of MAFCA and in 1990, I joined both simply to keep up with events that might not be advertized in both magazines and newsletters. As a member of the Skyline Chapter, I am required to belong to both, which I do. I enjoy going to national meets principally to see how others enjoy their cars plus I enjoy the people that share my interests. I find it inspiring and enlightening to read the work of the people, both current and past, who study the design and construction of the Model A, and then meeting them at national events. It is real clear in my mind that both organizations have two major components which I will label: The Social Side and the Technical Academic Restoration Side. Within each club, there are extremes of each. Personally, I gravitate toward the intellectual and technical aspects of restoration, but I don't mind going to an ice cream social now and then.
I have been in a number of national professional organizations having to do with my vocation. I have led and studied the operation of these organizations and how they function...or in some cases how they dysfunction and how they need to be consolidated to eliminate wastefulness. It occurs to me that there are several "scales of economy" that will accrue to the combined membership with one collective organization...conventions, membership meetings and magazine publications come to mind immediately. All the services offered to both could be consolidated into a single source entity, such as the fine point committee that exists for both clubs, and those services for individual groups that may be regional related could continue. It also occurs to me that it can start by having each club alternate annual meetings, which is about to happen by default for the next couple of years at least. Sooooo, it might not be a bad idea for the leadership of each organization to form a study committee comprised of leaders from both organization to discuss the pros and cons...and keep it seated until something happens. I was also thinking that the MAFFI museum at the Gilmore might be a great HQ...with an addition to house the staff and records. I also think that original membership numbers should be reused if one renews...as a matter of propriety...I think my original membership number was only three digits... OK, enough musing for a Sunday afternoon, back to the paint shop to get the Silver Mine Black 180A out for Niagara.... Last edited by swo4rd; 01-25-2015 at 04:16 PM. Reason: wasn't finished before. |
01-25-2015, 04:19 PM | #60 |
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It is my understanding that you can belong to either or both National clubs with out belonging to a local club. The two different magazines are more than worth the dues even if you are not a active member. The techinical articles and the swap and for sale are great resources.
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