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Flowmeister · 10-12-2014, 10:36 AM

Just wondering if anyone has all the Timken bearing numbers for a 40 Banjo?
I am replacing all the bearings.
I am just trying to speed things up by going into local bearing supply
with all my numbers in hand.

Thank you for any help you may offer.

deuce_roadster · 10-12-2014, 01:50 PM

I do, but I am not going to be home until around 7pm Pacific time. IF nobody has posted them by the time I get home, I will do that.

supereal · 10-12-2014, 03:49 PM

I don't have the Timken number, but many rear ends have other brand bearings if they were replaced over the years. The original Ford number is 68-4221, the dealer should be able to match it. The cones (race) should also be replaced with the new bearings. The race number is 68-4222. C&G shows them as $36.50 for bearings, $22.00 for the race, each.

Flowmeister · 10-12-2014, 05:19 PM

Thank you deuce roadster and supereal.
I'll take your numbers as well deuce roadster.
I am replacing all 3 pinion ones as well.
Thanks again!

john in illinois · 10-12-2014, 06:29 PM

I have found that the Ford parts vendors usually have better prices than the modern auto parts store for Timken bearings. Also easier to find the right part.
John

Flowmeister · 10-12-2014, 10:04 PM

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Thanks john in illinois, that is certainly a thought I had.
There is a place on this side of the border I deal with that sells a lot
of Mac's and other vendors stuff. I will call them after our long weekend.

Right now with how the dollar is and shipping, customs and brokerage fees can easily
add over $100. to a $500. order from the USA.

I have a place here in town called Transmission Supply that is really good to deal with,
but they are much happier if I walk in with numbers for what I am looking for.

Thanks again!

deuce_roadster · 10-12-2014, 11:33 PM

Timken bearings are still available, not sure about the Bower
Sorry this is later then I thought I would get to them.

37-48 differential Timken bearings
Pinion race (35-48) 27820D
Pinion brng (35-48) 27880 2 required
Carrier brng (37-48) 25578 2 required
Carrier race (37-48) 25522 2 required
Pinion pilot (33-48) Bower R-1304-BF

Flowmeister · 10-13-2014, 12:25 AM

Perfect! Thank You deuce roadster.
Exactly what I was looking for!

I love this place!

deuce_roadster · 10-13-2014, 12:34 AM

A couple of years ago, I got all the bearings and races for less then $300. Just for a reference.

Rowdy · 10-15-2014, 09:22 AM

While we are on the subject. Are the part numbers the same for the 42-47 1/2 ton pickup pinions? And the 35-36 axle hsg races? I have several hundred NOS and NORS bearings and races, so need to know what I need to keep for my own useThanks. Rod

deuce_roadster · 10-15-2014, 12:02 PM

Rowdy,
Don't know about the 42-7 pickup but I think that is a different kind of rear end.
35-6 passenger Timken list:

Pinion Race 27820D (same 35-48)
Pinion bearings 27880 (same 35-48)
Carrier bearings 22168
Carrier race 22325
Non Timken
pinion pilot brng Bower R 1304 BF (same 33-48)
drve shaft front brng Hyatt/Baltzer 99061 (same 32-48)

Rowdy · 10-15-2014, 12:19 PM

Thanks for the info. Only using the axle hsgs from the 35-36 rearend. Will see what I can figure out about the bearings from the pickup rearend. Hopefully they will have the Timken or Bower bearing numbers on them like the 1950's NOS bearings have on them. Ford sold them in the Fomoco box, but had the manufacturers number on them. Rod

Flowmeister · 10-15-2014, 02:19 PM

I ordered them all this morning.
All Timken and Bower.
Wasn't cheap, but I knew it wouldn't be

Thanks again for the help!

10-12-2014, 10:36 AM	#1
Flowmeister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 133	'40 Banjo Timken Numbers Just wondering if anyone has all the Timken bearing numbers for a 40 Banjo? I am replacing all the bearings. I am just trying to speed things up by going into local bearing supply with all my numbers in hand. Thank you for any help you may offer. Last edited by Flowmeister; 10-12-2014 at 10:13 PM.

10-12-2014, 01:50 PM	#2
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: '40 Banjo Timkin Numbers I do, but I am not going to be home until around 7pm Pacific time. IF nobody has posted them by the time I get home, I will do that.

10-12-2014, 03:49 PM	#3
supereal Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	Re: '40 Banjo Timkin Numbers I don't have the Timken number, but many rear ends have other brand bearings if they were replaced over the years. The original Ford number is 68-4221, the dealer should be able to match it. The cones (race) should also be replaced with the new bearings. The race number is 68-4222. C&G shows them as $36.50 for bearings, $22.00 for the race, each.

10-12-2014, 05:19 PM	#4
Flowmeister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 133	Re: '40 Banjo Timken Numbers Thank you deuce roadster and supereal. I'll take your numbers as well deuce roadster. I am replacing all 3 pinion ones as well. Thanks again! Last edited by Flowmeister; 10-12-2014 at 10:14 PM.

10-12-2014, 06:29 PM	#5
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,184	Re: '40 Banjo Timkin Numbers I have found that the Ford parts vendors usually have better prices than the modern auto parts store for Timken bearings. Also easier to find the right part. John

10-12-2014, 10:04 PM	#6
Flowmeister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 133	Re: '40 Banjo Timken Numbers Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks john in illinois, that is certainly a thought I had. There is a place on this side of the border I deal with that sells a lot of Mac's and other vendors stuff. I will call them after our long weekend. Right now with how the dollar is and shipping, customs and brokerage fees can easily add over $100. to a $500. order from the USA. I have a place here in town called Transmission Supply that is really good to deal with, but they are much happier if I walk in with numbers for what I am looking for. Thanks again! Last edited by Flowmeister; 10-12-2014 at 10:14 PM.

10-12-2014, 11:33 PM	#7
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: '40 Banjo Timken Numbers Timken bearings are still available, not sure about the Bower Sorry this is later then I thought I would get to them. 37-48 differential Timken bearings Pinion race (35-48) 27820D Pinion brng (35-48) 27880 2 required Carrier brng (37-48) 25578 2 required Carrier race (37-48) 25522 2 required Pinion pilot (33-48) Bower R-1304-BF

10-13-2014, 12:25 AM	#8
Flowmeister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 133	Re: '40 Banjo Timken Numbers Perfect! Thank You deuce roadster. Exactly what I was looking for! I love this place!

10-13-2014, 12:34 AM	#9
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: '40 Banjo Timken Numbers A couple of years ago, I got all the bearings and races for less then $300. Just for a reference.

10-15-2014, 09:22 AM	#10
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: '40 Banjo Timken Numbers While we are on the subject. Are the part numbers the same for the 42-47 1/2 ton pickup pinions? And the 35-36 axle hsg races? I have several hundred NOS and NORS bearings and races, so need to know what I need to keep for my own useThanks. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

10-15-2014, 12:02 PM	#11
deuce_roadster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Shelton, WA Posts: 3,800	Re: '40 Banjo Timken Numbers Rowdy, Don't know about the 42-7 pickup but I think that is a different kind of rear end. 35-6 passenger Timken list: Pinion Race 27820D (same 35-48) Pinion bearings 27880 (same 35-48) Carrier bearings 22168 Carrier race 22325 Non Timken pinion pilot brng Bower R 1304 BF (same 33-48) drve shaft front brng Hyatt/Baltzer 99061 (same 32-48)

10-15-2014, 12:19 PM	#12
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: '40 Banjo Timken Numbers Thanks for the info. Only using the axle hsgs from the 35-36 rearend. Will see what I can figure out about the bearings from the pickup rearend. Hopefully they will have the Timken or Bower bearing numbers on them like the 1950's NOS bearings have on them. Ford sold them in the Fomoco box, but had the manufacturers number on them. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

10-15-2014, 02:19 PM	#13
Flowmeister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 133	Re: '40 Banjo Timken Numbers I ordered them all this morning. All Timken and Bower. Wasn't cheap, but I knew it wouldn't be Thanks again for the help!